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Thread: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    I believe that when the civil rights act was passed it was necessary. I do not believe it is now.
    When it was passed, minorities held virtually no positions of power or prominence in society. That is not the case today. I don't think anyone disputes that Mustachio's family was discriminated against. In today's time, if a business decided to discriminate against a particular group of people, another business would open that caters to the affected race. NAACP and other groups would bring much unwanted publicity to any business that discriminates.
    Several other points:
    • It is completely legal to discriminate. All that is required is to call it a "private" club. So why doesn't this happen more often and I am curious what the people that believe the CRA should stand feel about "private" clubs.
    • People will discriminate regardless. Very few situations exist that a person could not be refused service for **some** reason. Retail sales would be an exception. In the case of the house that was presented earlier, all the home owners had to do was refuse the first offer and keep their mouth shut to the reason.
    • Why would a person want to frequent a place they aren't welcome? No law exists that requires a proprietor to make a customer "comfortable". If a person goes in place and made to feel "out of place" chances are they would leave and/or not come back to that business.
    • Isn't it interesting that the only time it's legal to ask a person race is if it's required by the government?
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Yeah, and if pigs had wings they'd be birds, wouldn't they?
    No they would actually still be mammals. That is unless of course it was their front legs that grew into wings, they started walking upright, grew feathers,their bones became hollow, and they started laying eggs to reproduce.

    Heh I just happen to think, if that happens you could get bacon and eggs from the same animal! SWEET!!!
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    It think that he's made his opinion clear. Why do you care?
    I don't think he did.




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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The rules were created to combat dispicable racism and the scumbags who carried on as such. The rules are necessary. John Stossel is a disgrace and needs to lose his job over it.
    like it or not, the federal government engaged in an unconstitutional power grab in violation of the tenth amendment to force private businesses to serve people whom the owner did not want to serve

    Unconstitutional behavior by the government affirmed by dishonest jurists is far far worse than individual acts of racism and bigotry by shortsighted business owners.

    Stossel tells the truth-calling him a disgrace is Despicable



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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I believe that when the civil rights act was passed it was necessary. I do not believe it is now.
    When it was passed, minorities held virtually no positions of power or prominence in society. That is not the case today. I don't think anyone disputes that Mustachio's family was discriminated against. In today's time, if a business decided to discriminate against a particular group of people, another business would open that caters to the affected race. NAACP and other groups would bring much unwanted publicity to any business that discriminates.
    Several other points:
    • It is completely legal to discriminate. All that is required is to call it a "private" club. So why doesn't this happen more often and I am curious what the people that believe the CRA should stand feel about "private" clubs.
    • People will discriminate regardless. Very few situations exist that a person could not be refused service for **some** reason. Retail sales would be an exception. In the case of the house that was presented earlier, all the home owners had to do was refuse the first offer and keep their mouth shut to the reason.
    • Why would a person want to frequent a place they aren't welcome? No law exists that requires a proprietor to make a customer "comfortable". If a person goes in place and made to feel "out of place" chances are they would leave and/or not come back to that business.
    • Isn't it interesting that the only time it's legal to ask a person race is if it's required by the government?
    many liberals want to ban private clubs or at least force them to accept people they don't want to.

    many private clubs have been sued by women and minorities for being excluded on the grounds that not being members interfere with their "RIGHT" to conduct business etc

    the government should have no authority to do this



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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    It's disheartening to think that the majority of people in this forum agree with Stossel someone whom sold out journalistic integrity for personal gain years ago.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It's disheartening to think that the majority of people in this forum agree with Stossel someone whom sold out journalistic integrity for personal gain years ago.
    He's very open with his bias, as opposed to other reporters.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Maybe I missed it, but I have yet to see someone respond to my request, which I hope someone will respond to...

    Someone please give a situation where a non-racist/non-prejudice person is currently forbidden to refuse service to someone under the Civil Rights Act.

    If repealing this law will only allow people to freely refuse service on a racial/cultural basis... I say don't repeal it.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It's disheartening to think that the majority of people in this forum agree with Stossel someone whom sold out journalistic integrity for personal gain years ago.
    I try to watch his show often and he tells the tale of why he changed his stance regularly.
    It's because reality trumps utopian ideals.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    It's disheartening to think that the majority of people in this forum agree with Stossel someone whom sold out journalistic integrity for personal gain years ago.
    What is the basis on which you say that?

    It's disheartening to me that so many people confuse "honesty" and "integrity" with "agrees with me."
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