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Thread: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You freedom stops when it impinges upon my freedom.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You have no freedom to do business with me if I don't want to. Your taxes do not obligate me to contract with you.
    taxes don't, the law does.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That's kind of akin to saying, "We've all learned our lesson." We haven't. We've got a long way to go.
    Typical left wing racial babble...."We have a long way to go." Yeah a loooooooooooooong way, in fact there's been no improvement compared to what's needed. If you're talking about the victims, they may have a long way to go because they haven't stepped up, because guys like Jackson and Sharpton have kept them down.


    Here's a related thread.... http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...-remedies.html

    This thread shows us what the problem is. Even after 40 years, black rights leaders are singing the same tune....."we have a long ways to go". It's nothing more than a shakedown of the public sentiment. We've led the horse to water, it's time to lean forward and drink.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Knew that!! Ha!



    Doesn't tell me as much as maybe it tells you, Right. I'm a Realtor in suburban Chicago. I have been involved in a number of instances where my client told me right up front, "I'm not selling to Blacks." That's when ya' push your chair back from the table, and say, "Find somebody else to list your house. I'm not going to jail." (Realtors who even ACKNOWLEDGE a statement like that are in soooo much trouble.) Also had two sellers who refused to sign contracts when they found out the buyers were Black. In both instances, my broker and I pointed to the error of their ways clearly enough so that they SIGNED. But they never would have signed without a serious Come ta' Jesus meeting. On the buy end, when I've represented Blacks, I've had Sellers say things to me when I've shown their home that clearly indicate prejudice is alive and kickin' -- even in Chicago. Imagine the south.

    Remember Denny's a few years back? Some restaurant in the south refused to seat blacks? It'd spring up so fast it'd make people's heads swim.
    I doubt it.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Typical left wing racial babble...."We have a long way to go." Yeah a loooooooooooooong way, in fact there's been no improvement compared to what's needed. If you're talking about the victims, they may have a long way to go because they haven't stepped up, because guys like Jackson and Sharpton have kept them down.


    Here's a related thread.... http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...-remedies.html

    This thread shows us what the problem is. Even after 40 years, black rights leaders are singing the same tune....."we have a long ways to go". It's nothing more than a shakedown of the public sentiment. We've led the horse to water, it's time to lean forward and drink.
    Do you ever actually talk to black people about this, or are you just some kind of expert?
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Well it's a right of association thing. Store owners can throw out people for all kinds of stupid things without legal recourse.

    Maybe it was necessary in the 1960s, but today I can't imagine a more than a few openly discriminating stores staying in business for long or being forced to recant due to public outrage.
    I think it would be more than a few. In fact, I believe it would lead to the creation of stores that are popular for the very reason that they disciminate. Racial issues is one of those things I think should die a quiet death, and slowly, as older generations die off, I believe that is happening, but its not far gone enough.

    Also quite frankly, I think the pursuit of removing racism is more important than freedom of association in this case.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think it would be more than a few. In fact, I believe it would lead to the creation of stores that are popular for the very reason that they disciminate. Racial issues is one of those things I think should die a quiet death, and slowly, as older generations die off, I believe that is happening, but its not far gone enough.
    There would be a few here and there, but in today's society racism isn't acceptable in public. Are some people still racist in public? Certainly, but the vast majority of people, even those with private prejudices aren't.

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    Also quite frankly, I think the pursuit of removing racism is more important than freedom of association in this case.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    There would be a few here and there, but in today's society racism isn't acceptable in public. Are some people still racist in public? Certainly, but the vast majority of people, even those with private prejudices aren't.
    In the area I live, I am quite certain that such stores would spring up overnight, increasing tensions in the area and doing no good for anybody.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    You can't make people like each other.
    In the short term, you can't. But as generations pass, people will become more tolerent to other races, at least in a civil society. The problem will never be completely solved, but there is nothing to be gained by letting society go backwards.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    In the area I live, I am quite certain that such stores would spring up overnight, increasing tensions in the area and doing no good for anybody.



    In the short term, you can't. But as generations pass, people will become more tolerent to other races, at least in a civil society. The problem will never be completely solved, but there is nothing to be gained by letting society go backwards.
    Yes, no doubt someone would open up a store immediate just so they can discriminate.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    taxes don't, the law does.
    He said his taxes do.
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