View Poll Results: FDR's Greatest Mistakes

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  • Seizing people's gold and devaluing currency by 42%

    17 28.33%
  • Outlawing personal ownership of gold

    18 30.00%
  • Huge tax increases

    16 26.67%
  • Tax withholding

    13 21.67%
  • Creation of world's greatest Ponzi scheme

    20 33.33%
  • Minimum wage

    13 21.67%
  • Massive eminent domain seizures (TVA, Oak Ridge, etc.)

    14 23.33%
  • Agitating Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor

    16 26.67%
  • Incarcerating Japanese-American citizens into concentration camps

    36 60.00%
  • Other (specify)

    15 25.00%
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Thread: FDR's Greatist Blunder

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by GayLibertarian View Post
    If President Bush was our first Socialist President (per Michael Savage), I think FDR was our first totalitarian dictator.

    Bush wasn't a Socialist, FDR wasn't a totalitarian dictator. Realize what these things really mean before you accuse people.

    His hatred of free enterprise, military blunders during the war and outrageous assault on personal freedoms makes him one of the worst Presidents who have ever held office. I am thankful his death came in 1945 where he could do no more damage to our nation.
    He did some things I disagree with, but he did great things for this country, and if you were to look at things pragmatically instead of through your ideological lenses, you'd see it
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Does the possibility exist that your hatred for FDR is even greater than than your hatred of Barack Obama, RonPaulVoter???
    I'll give you an "A" for the quantity of lies and a "F" for twisting the truth, so obvious that not even I am falling for it.
    And, of course, no "vote".
    I am not fond of hating anybody. But when I see leaders of my country (and your country too) committing horrendous acts that violate its fundamental Constitutional principles and lead to its destruction, I get angry.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    I'd would say the Japanese interment camps as one of his greatness blunders in the history of America. People were fighting against Hitler who did the same thing with the people he thought were inferior, and we did the same with the Japanese Americans.

    That was the stupidest move he could have made in a time of all out war with Japan, and Germany.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    I do not "hate" FDR, I simply consider him our "First Totalitarian President". His abuses of policy and executive power are well known (outside of liberal, progressive, left-wing universities) where freedom of speech is allowed.

    FDR's policies led to lengthening the Great Depression.

    Not only did he illegally imprison Japanese Americans, he forcibly returned nearly 3,000,000 Vlasov Russians who were immediately *executed by firing squad* when they were handed back to the NKVD, 1945-46 on the Italian border after the close of the war. FDR was also buddy-buddy with Stalin (who executed nearly 41,000,000 human beings); his administration was pockmarked with Comunists, which "Tail Gunner Joe" McCarthy later shed light on.
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Hitler wanted to humble the French and British. To say Hitler didn't want war in the West is ignorant.

    Japan CHOSE, of thei own free will, to attack the United States. Period. That America excercised its freedom to dease selling Japan war materials after Japan sank the USS Panay in Manchuria can in no way whatsoever be construed as the US forcing Japan tostart the war. 100% of all blame for the war in the Pacific rests with Japan.
    Things you won't find in history books...

    Hitler had to go to war for the same reason we attacked Iraq, survival Politics. Like Bush, he was probably losing his popularity and wanted to get reelected. Obama is also in the same political mess with Afghanistan and Iran and can't get out.

    After FDR cut off their oil supply to punish Japan for their atrocities in China, Hiro Hito had no choice but to go to war. Honor and all that stuff... I don't think it was a conspiracy, just an angry reaction that got out of hand.

    That was the first case of deliberate hubris, and we've been stuck with it ever since.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by RyrineaHaruno View Post
    I'd would say the Japanese interment camps as one of his greatness blunders in the history of America. People were fighting against Hitler who did the same thing with the people he thought were inferior, and we did the same with the Japanese Americans.
    You weren't there, so how could you know?

    From what I remember about it, it was for the Japs own good, to save them from over-heated patriots who burned down their houses, beat them up, and worse.

    Everything came to a head when the Los Angeles skies suddenly came alive with sirens, and search lights...

    Of course, creditors were forced to foreclose, so the returning Japs were left out in the cold.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Well what would you define as "just compensation"?
    Sentimental value would place an arbitrary limit on monetary compensation, which is why the 'public good' does not acknowledge it. Market value, as well as a certain extra % for the inconvenience, is about as good as it can get.
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    You weren't there, so how could you know?

    From what I remember about it, it was for the Japs own good, to save them from over-heated patriots who burned down their houses, beat them up, and worse.

    Everything came to a head when the Los Angeles skies suddenly came alive with sirens, and search lights...

    Of course, creditors were forced to foreclose, so the returning Japs were left out in the cold.

    ricksfolly
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    The way the Japanese-Americans were treated is nothing short of disgraceful. They lost everything they had. They lost their homes, their land, and their farms. Japanese-Americans were the backbone of California's fruit industry prior to WWII and that was all lost. Absolutely disgraceful... And ironically, while Issei were often loyal to Japan (and there would have been a legitimate reason to intern them as they were still Japanese citizens) Nissei were U.S. citizens and by-in-large were loyal to the U.S. Sansei had virtually no affinity for Japan and were loyal to the U.S. as well....
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    Easily internment camps, when of the biggest atrocities in American history.
    Just because you didnt like camp doesnt mean that others feel the same way
    What happened? Bad food? Someone push you into the lake?
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It would be a good idea to refrain from using racial epithets in DP...

    The way the Japanese-Americans were treated is nothing short of disgraceful. They lost everything they had. They lost their homes, their land, and their farms. Japanese-Americans were the backbone of California's fruit industry prior to WWII and that was all lost. Absolutely disgraceful... And ironically, while Issei were often loyal to Japan (and there would have been a legitimate reason to intern them as they were still Japanese citizens) Nissei were U.S. citizens and by-in-large were loyal to the U.S. Sansei had virtually no affinity for Japan and were loyal to the U.S. as well....

    Japs is not a racial slur. I didnt know that Japanese had their own race
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