View Poll Results: FDR's Greatest Mistakes

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  • Seizing people's gold and devaluing currency by 42%

    17 28.33%
  • Outlawing personal ownership of gold

    18 30.00%
  • Huge tax increases

    16 26.67%
  • Tax withholding

    13 21.67%
  • Creation of world's greatest Ponzi scheme

    20 33.33%
  • Minimum wage

    13 21.67%
  • Massive eminent domain seizures (TVA, Oak Ridge, etc.)

    14 23.33%
  • Agitating Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor

    16 26.67%
  • Incarcerating Japanese-American citizens into concentration camps

    36 60.00%
  • Other (specify)

    15 25.00%
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Thread: FDR's Greatist Blunder

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    What do you consider FDR's gravest mistakes?

    Poll is multiple choice. Vote for all that apply.
    You've got things on your list he didn't do.

    Go back to school.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So they were forced to leave their property so that they could leave their property for their own benefit. Lol, that's a quirky explanation. They knew what was coming, they could have moved if they wanted to. I can understand the government compensating these people since they wouldn't have been able to leave without losing a ton of money, but forcing them to leave? I can't justify that.
    They were not "forced," there are those who still live in the areas. Lone houses that did not want to move. But they will not get the same deal the others got in the beginning if they should now choose to move. They will only receive market value.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    They were not "forced," there are those who still live in the areas. Lone houses that did not want to move. But they will not get the same deal the others got in the beginning if they should now choose to move. They will only receive market value.
    Then that's not an example of eminent domain. Eminent domain is when the government forces someone to leave and pays them what they consider fair. It's a lopsided deal. However, what you described just sounds like fair compensation. It seems like a plan I would have supported. In effect it was like paying for the noise pollution.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Then that's not an example of eminent domain. Eminent domain is when the government forces someone to leave and pays them what they consider fair. It's a lopsided deal. However, what you described just sounds like fair compensation. It seems like a plan I would have supported. In effect it was like paying for the noise pollution.
    I am aware of what eminent domain is and the thing is that these people "will" eventually be forced to move, the hold-outs I mean, but the way the government and company went about it, I feel was a very fair process.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I am aware of what eminent domain is and the thing is that these people "will" eventually be forced to move, the hold-outs I mean, but the way the government and company went about it, I feel was a very fair process.
    I don't see how they would be forced to move if the government isn't actively forcing them to move. They are being given money, but not forced to leave as far as I can see.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    These remaining residents are on the edges of the properties and UPS has not yet had use for it. But they are ever building new warehouses and when they do reach the areas where these people are, they will be forced out.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    These remaining residents are on the edges of the properties and UPS has not yet had use for it. But they are ever building new warehouses and when they do reach the areas where these people are, they will be forced out.
    I see then, well it's that which I don't agree with. They should just be able to get people to leave with an offer (voluntarily) or they should find a new place to build the warehouse.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I see then, well it's that which I don't agree with. They should just be able to get people to leave with an offer (voluntarily) or they should find a new place to build the warehouse.
    I can see both sides of this argument but in the end I suppose it all comes down to the rights of the individual versus the people as a whole, which supercedes? I admit I do not know the answer.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Does the possibility exist that your hatred for FDR is even greater than than your hatred of Barack Obama, RonPaulVoter???
    I'll give you an "A" for the quantity of lies and a "F" for twisting the truth, so obvious that not even I am falling for it.
    And, of course, no "vote".

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I can see both sides of this argument but in the end I suppose it all comes down to the rights of the individual versus the people as a whole, which supercedes? I admit I do not know the answer.
    The people as a whole have no right to the land that the individual owns. If the people want control, then the people can buy it from the individual.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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