View Poll Results: FDR's Greatest Mistakes

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  • Seizing people's gold and devaluing currency by 42%

    17 28.33%
  • Outlawing personal ownership of gold

    18 30.00%
  • Huge tax increases

    16 26.67%
  • Tax withholding

    13 21.67%
  • Creation of world's greatest Ponzi scheme

    20 33.33%
  • Minimum wage

    13 21.67%
  • Massive eminent domain seizures (TVA, Oak Ridge, etc.)

    14 23.33%
  • Agitating Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor

    16 26.67%
  • Incarcerating Japanese-American citizens into concentration camps

    36 60.00%
  • Other (specify)

    15 25.00%
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Thread: FDR's Greatist Blunder

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Sentimental value would place an arbitrary limit on monetary compensation, which is why the 'public good' does not acknowledge it. Market value, as well as a certain extra % for the inconvenience, is about as good as it can get.
    But it's not good enough. Offering enough money that people would voluntarily leave is the only fair method.

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    All them are horrible marks on FDR's presidency but the top would be the Japanese, German and Italian interment camps

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    My only problem with eminent domain is when its used to build a walmart or something. If its essential infrastructure, than its probably a good thing.
    Eminent domain is nothing but government theft of private property.
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    All them are horrible marks on FDR's presidency but the top would be the Japanese, German and Italian interment camps



    Eminent domain is nothing but government theft of private property.
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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Amend the constitution if you don't like it
    Define "just compensation." I would argue that the only "just compensation" is that which the property owner voluntarily accepts.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    All them are horrible marks on FDR's presidency but the top would be the Japanese, German and Italian interment camps
    Sabotage was a real threat back then, and after he read what Japanese Americans did at Pearl Harbor, disabled all our planes on the ground, FDR had to protect against it.
    Naturally the opposing party was against it (apparently still is), but the majority approved, as evidenced by his win win again in 1944.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Define just compensation. I've pointed out that market value is not just compensation since the property owner values his home more than market value minus the hassle of moving.
    That really depends on the circumstances.

    If the TVA is moving hill-billies to land above the high water mark for the new damn, then "just compensation" would be the cost of acquiring equivalent or better land.

    The owner of the land where the Rangers Stadium was built should have been paid his asking price for the property, since there was zero public need for a baseball stadium, and hence zero justification for George Bush to have this man's land condemned under eminent domain. If the private company that owned the Rangers wanted to build the stadium there, they should have dealt squarely with the land owners. Instead, in a classic case of abuse of power, the government intervened and stole the property. The courts later determined the owner was paid half the value of the land taken.

    There's been some talk of the feds building a highway corridor north from the Texas/Mexico border to Canada through what the Democrats call "fly over country". This will naturally entail MASSIVE land grabs by local and state and federal governments. The land taken from property owners to the actual fencing on the freeway should be paid for at current local market rates, with additional compensation for properties cut into two pieces for loss of access. Furthermore...all confiscated properties that are subsequently used to construct commercial zones around the freeway access points should be valued at their expected worth at the completion of the project when the lots will be parcelled out and auctioned to commercial developers.

    In other words, the state should not take more than is needed for the actual project, and the well-connected real-estate developer friends of the policians planning the project should not see a dime's profit from their political connections.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Sabotage was a real threat back then, and after he read what Japanese Americans did at Pearl Harbor, disabled all our planes on the ground, FDR had to protect against it.
    Naturally the opposing party was against it (apparently still is), but the majority approved, as evidenced by his win win again in 1944.

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    Historical Note:

    Pearl Harbor was attacked from the air by carrier based aircraft.

    Sabotage was not a real factor in the demage done, only fear of sabotage.

    There is no justification for the racist acts against Japanese-American citizens.

    There was a valid concern about the possible activities of the German-American Bundts at the outbreak of war. Which isn't to say that those people should have been interned, but they should have been watched as potential spies and sabateurs. As in all things, the Progressives made a mockery of American values and the Constitution.

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    Re: FDR's Greatist Blunder

    Fannie Mae and the FDIC should also be on the list.
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