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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You may have a point with disability but as far as age goes, there's this novel invention called a bank.
    People should use it.
    Banks are not noted for being "people friendly".
    They must learn this.
    They must also learn how to be open and honest;their clients should, at all times, know how toxic the bank assets are.
    What the Rat states is how things are now.
    If social security needs more money, they should control Medicare better, and, the biggie; put an end to the "cut off" of social security contributions.
    Its not right that the rich, the very rich, and the filthy rich all pay the same.
    And this will never change as long as the conservatives/libertarians remain in power.

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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    People lived, prospered and made better lives for themselves before the existance of Social Security - they can again. If it MUST continue to exist, I agree with other posters - that the money needs to stay in the SS realm and not used as a bucket of money for every pet project that comes down the pike. If it MUST exist, reform is best, but if not and it continues to be abused - the only way to keep it solvent is to extend the age limit so the pet projects can continue to funded, and the people who pay into it, continue to be robbed.
    This statement, of course, is not true.
    Amend "some".
    Eradicate "robbed".

    I am not rich, I do not represent the rich. The working men of America should establish their own political party, one that would look after their interests.
    All social security needs to do is to up the limits on contributions - the rich must pay their share.

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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Social Security if it must exist should be voluntary. You shouldn't be forced to participate.
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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    I generally don't like agreeing with the GOP but I do on this one.

    It only makes sense. Back when the age was set at 65, the average age of death was 60 or something. As people live longer it only makes sense to raise the age at the same time. People are still working into their 70s. We've had a President older than that.

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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Banks are not noted for being "people friendly".
    They must learn this.
    They must also learn how to be open and honest;their clients should, at all times, know how toxic the bank assets are.
    What the Rat states is how things are now.
    If social security needs more money, they should control Medicare better, and, the biggie; put an end to the "cut off" of social security contributions.
    Its not right that the rich, the very rich, and the filthy rich all pay the same.
    And this will never change as long as the conservatives/libertarians remain in power.
    My bank is very friendly, when you account for all the free benefits they give me, I'm earning well in excess of the basic interest rate on savings accounts.
    They also happen to be my brokerage as well, I get free trades all the time.

    I'm not rich by most peoples standards.
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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    We have far too many "public servants".
    Decrease this number by 50%; I see no earthly need for 535 representatives and 100 senators..
    What do they really do to earn their money?
    Leave the retirement age as is.
    I have the notion that the Libertarian agenda is to revert our nation back to the 1600s.
    Not at all, we just want people to be responsible for their lives.
    If that is considered the 1600's, so be it.
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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Not at all, we just want people to be responsible for their lives.
    If that is considered the 1600's, so be it.
    The problem is that the 1600s was a ****ty time to be alive.

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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    The problem is that the 1600s was a ****ty time to be alive.
    For some people I'm sure but what I'm advocating for isn't the 1600's.

    It's disturbing when we as a society must categorize everyone into a massive group and say this is the acceptable retirement age.
    Of course you can plot your own path and retire earlier but at an increased cost, that you otherwise might not have to incur.

    It's unfair, SS should not exist to reward those who beat the life expectancy game, it shouldn't reward those who don't actively plan their finances.

    It's wrong on so many different levels.
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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    For some people I'm sure but what I'm advocating for isn't the 1600's.
    For anyone who wasn't rich I am guessing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's disturbing when we as a society must categorize everyone into a massive group and say this is the acceptable retirement age.
    Of course you can plot your own path and retire earlier but at an increased cost, that you otherwise might not have to incur.
    Blame it on industrialization. The side effect is mass everything, including retirement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's unfair, SS should not exist to reward those who beat the life expectancy game, it shouldn't reward those who don't actively plan their finances.

    It's wrong on so many different levels.
    What you see as a reward, I see as keeping people from dying (which is something I have no problem with spending my money on, through government, I see it as charity). At least that was the case in the early 1900s, now we have less of that, but its largely due to government subsidy. If you take that away, you will see lots of people dying again.

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    Re: Should Retirement Age Be Raised to 70?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    For anyone who wasn't rich I am guessing.
    I'm not entirely sure I believe that.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Blame it on industrialization. The side effect is mass everything, including retirement.
    It was designed to cover less than half of the people.
    That's why the original retirement age was above the average life expectancy.

    So lets get this straight, we're going to create a retirement system that doesn't cover a majority of people but makes all working people pay into it.


    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What you see as a reward, I see as keeping people from dying (which is something I have no problem with spending my money on, through government, I see it as charity). At least that was the case in the early 1900s, now we have less of that, but its largely due to government subsidy. If you take that away, you will see lots of people dying again.
    Bull, you're going to have to present evidence, that before Social Security, elderly people died more often because they were broke.
    You're just making assumptions.
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