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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

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davidtaylorjr said:
:roll: obviously not. I wouldn't throw a kid in the street.
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At thirteen they caught him kissing another boy and threw him in the gutter to die. They are a good Christian family. Are you telling me you wouldn't disown a child if they were gay?
 
davidtaylorjr said:
:shrug: Truth hurts
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I would say you are fairly fundamentalist


The researchers found that “general religiosity” was not associated with psychologically or physically abusive behavior, nor with approval of domestic violence. However, “fundamentalism” was positively correlated with both physically abusive behavior and approval of domestic violence. The more fundamentalist the belief system, the more likely the believer was to support or engage in physically abusive and violent domestic behavior.

http://courses.ttu.edu/jkoch/Research/Koch Ramirez Religion and Partner Violence Final Feb 09.pdf
 
CLAX1911 said:
At thirteen they caught him kissing another boy and threw him in the gutter to die. They are a good Christian family. Are you telling me you wouldn't disown a child if they were gay?
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That is what I am saying, I have said so other times on this very forum. I wouldn't condone or encourage their behavior either.
 
winston53660 said:
I would say you are fairly fundamentalist


The researchers found that “general religiosity” was not associated with psychologically or physically abusive behavior, nor with approval of domestic violence. However, “fundamentalism” was positively correlated with both physically abusive behavior and approval of domestic violence. The more fundamentalist the belief system, the more likely the believer was to support or engage in physically abusive and violent domestic behavior.

http://courses.ttu.edu/jkoch/Research/Koch Ramirez Religion and Partner Violence Final Feb 09.pdf
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And your point?
 
Quag said:
If a child is ostracized by the other children because they are different for whatever reason it will be almost impossible to teach them or for them to learn. The only way to have children learn is to do it in a safe environment free from prejudices and hate. Therefore it is imperative that schools teach tolerance and understanding. It is not a matter of controlling every aspect of life it is a matter of the schools being able to do what they are supposed to do and that is teach the children, because an educated population is beneficial to all of society
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excuse how do you equate, not teaching homosexuality is normal...not taking a position in schools as.......... preaching hate and prejudices ?

you are making the claim ,if they teach one thing, you want ...you will removed hate and prejudices ,...however if they teach nothing on the subject..its teaching hate and prejudices .
 
davidtaylorjr said:
A voucher for education =/= me getting money back. It would go to the school, not me.
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Yeah, to the private school, not the body that Levys taxes. It's a tax refund for your special school, sorry that is tax exemption. Your taxes must go to the body that they are meant for, you dint get to chose how your taxes are spent. You're backwards beliefs not withstanding
 
douglas said:
Secular righteousness. Pedophilia, incest, rape, slavery, and racism are completely condoned by the Judeo-Christian moral code.
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Nuts. What is is about 'love your neighbor as you love yourself' do you even remotely believe justifies any of those things?


douglas said:
We know that those things are wrong; it's obvious that most Americans, whether they know it or not, evaluate the world with a secular view. If the numbers relevant to that view are improving, then the country is moving towards Secular righteousness. Most people, even those that claim to support the biblical righteousness view, wouldn't like the country if we moved towards it.
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"It is certainly arguable that “progressive” liberal fundamentalism substantially undermines the basic effectiveness of the government and other societal elements of democracy. Despite the idealistic goals of liberalism, attempts to build a utopian liberal society in America have only led to heightened outbreaks of AIDS, VD, porno-related crime, social divisions, divorce, abortion, drug addictions, deficit spending, the welfare state, a crushing tax burden, the breakdown of the family unit, moral depravity, and numerous other such scourges which have resulted in enormous societal suffering and discontent. As a result, secular liberal fundamentalism is strongly associated with left-wing fanaticism, reverse-racism, anti-intellectualism, elitism, nihilism, godlessness, and societal violence." – Author Unknown
 
CLAX1911 said:
At thirteen they caught him kissing another boy and threw him in the gutter to die. They are a good Christian family. Are you telling me you wouldn't disown a child if they were gay?
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i am a christian, and though a child of mine would be gay, i would not disown him or her, i still love them, and do what a parents is supposed to do for their children.
 
winston53660 said:
Clax's kid is lucky to not be in one of those abusive families.
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He admitted that he wouldn't physically abuse his kid, but he would emotionally abuse them. Constant disapproval would do just as much damage as any other form of abuse.

He thinks it's okay.

I an so glad for humanity that people like this are dying out.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Yeah, to the private school, not the body that Levys taxes. It's a tax refund for your special school, sorry that is tax exemption. Your taxes must go to the body that they are meant for, you dint get to chose how your taxes are spent. You're backwards beliefs not withstanding
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The private schools don't pay taxes......
That being said it's not a tax exemption. The tax is for education, and I am proposing a change in the system. Man you are dense.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Torching them? Oh please.....Instructing in truth is not the same as torching.
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You can't instruct away homosexuality. It isn't a disease that can be cured.

You would rather your child hate themselves verses be homosexual. I feel sorry for your kids, not having a father that loves them.
 
CLAX1911 said:
He admitted that he wouldn't physically abuse his kid, but he would emotionally abuse them. Constant disapproval would do just as much damage as any other form of abuse.

He thinks it's okay.

I an so glad for humanity that people like this are dying out.
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But they do seem to get noisier.
 
ernst barkmann said:
excuse how do you equate, not teaching homosexuality is normal...not taking a position in schools as.......... preaching hate and prejudices ?

you are making the claim ,if they teach one thing, you want ...you will removed hate and prejudices ,...however if they teach nothing on the subject..its teaching hate and prejudices .
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Not even close to what I was saying.
I never said refusal to teach tolerance and understanding was the same thing as teaching hate and prejudices.
Children, in fact all people have a tendency to fear/hate what they do not understand. You also get the people who attack (both physically and mentally) anyone who they perceive as being different. It is contrary to the well working of the school not to address these issues. Will teaching tolerance and understanding end all hatred and bigotry? Of course not but it can help to reduce it.
 
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