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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)


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Yes because that is a value judgement and factually incorrect.



No, because that is information.



Your prediction is correct but your reasoning is not. It's about facts, not values. YOU have clearly stated that you do not want values taught in schools. Seems to me that you don't want facts that you don't like taught in schools.




Feelings are irrelevant. Facts are relevant. I've explained this to you.

no its what you believe to be correct, others have a different point of view then you do.

you look a the equation from your side, and are happy as long as things go your way, but you are unhappy when things don't.

this issue divides people, by government taking a position on the issue they then come down on one side, and government is not suppose to take any side.
 
1.)no its what you believe to be correct, others have a different point of view then you do.

you look a the equation from your side, and are happy as long as things go your way, but you are unhappy when things don't.

this issue divides people, by government taking a position on the issue they then come down on one side, and government is not suppose to take any side.


wow, really?


yeah thats it, im going to yell at my school tomorrow, i dont want them teaching that old math that 2+2=4 when i know it equals five and they better not tell my kid all the left-handed people, redheaded people, blacks and or Catholic people and jewish people are normal!

how dare they!!!!! they are taking sides!!!!





yep thats exactly how inane and unedcuated about this topic your failed logic is
 
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no its what you believe to be correct, others have a different point of view then you do.

No, it's what has been proven to be correct. The opposing point of view, since incorrect factually, is a value judgment.

you look a the equation from your side, and are happy as long as things go your way, but you are unhappy when things don't.

You seem to not want facts that are inconvenient to your belief system to be presented. Are you in favor of censorship?

this issue divides people, by government taking a position on the issue they then come down on one side, and government is not suppose to take any side.

The government is taking the side of factual information. You keep ignoring this point.
 
I stated want i see here from each of you, you belive your side has the facts.

However you beliveing that does not make it fact

other people believe things they consider facts also, which are opposite of yours.

So you wish to count your own facts and discard theirs, well in your own world, you can do that, however in the public domain you dont get to put what you belive to be facts put on a pedestal, and everyone ahere to them.

Clearly you are like most other citizens, who puts his own views above others, no matter the cost.
 
Enst it is normal and natural for X% of population to be homosexual in the same manner it is normal and natural for X% of the population to be born with red hair or a congenital heart defect or to be let handed.
 
I stated want i see here from each of you, you belive your side has the facts.

However you beliveing that does not make it fact

We do not BELIEVE we have facts. We HAVE facts. That's the difference.

other people believe things they consider facts also, which are opposite of yours.

Other people's beliefs are irrelevant. They aren't facts, they are beliefs.

Again, you seem to be complaining because facts that you don't like will be provided. Facts are facts. You not liking them is irrelevant.

So you wish to count your own facts and discard theirs, well in your own world, you can do that, however in the public domain you dont get to put what you belive to be facts put on a pedestal, and everyone ahere to them.

Since theirs are not facts, of course I get to discard them when it comes to providing info. No reason to provide false information.

Clearly you are like most other citizens, who puts his own views above others, no matter the cost.

No, that would be you. I support presenting facts. You support suppressing facts because you don't like them.
 

Normalcy, in this case, refers to something that is without defect or disorder. Plenty of studies show that those who are homosexual are no different than those who are heterosexual. The Hooker study demonstrated this and was one of the reasons for homosexuality to be removed from the DSM as a disorder. All major health organizations see homosexuality as a normal variant or difference in sexual orientation.
 
I stated want i see here from each of you, you belive your side has the facts.

However you beliveing that does not make it fact

other people believe things they consider facts also, which are opposite of yours.

So you wish to count your own facts and discard theirs, well in your own world, you can do that, however in the public domain you dont get to put what you belive to be facts put on a pedestal, and everyone ahere to them.

Clearly you are like most other citizens, who puts his own views above others, no matter the cost.

the dishonesty in your posts and or lack of education on this topic is astounding

beliefs dont matter facts matter, trying to run from this is what got your post destroyed and is still getting your post destroyed.
Facts defeat you again and my anology about your failed logic was spot on

"yeah thats it, im going to yell at my school tomorrow, i dont want them teaching that old math that 2+2=4 when i know it equals five and they better not tell my kid all the left-handed people, redheaded people, blacks and or Catholic people and jewish people are normal!

how dare they!!!!! they are taking sides!!!!"


yep your argument is that silly and fails that bad
 
We do not BELIEVE we have facts. We HAVE facts. That's the difference.



Other people's beliefs are irrelevant. They aren't facts, they are beliefs.

Again, you seem to be complaining because facts that you don't like will be provided. Facts are facts. You not liking them is irrelevant.



Since theirs are not facts, of course I get to discard them when it comes to providing info. No reason to provide false information.



No, that would be you. I support presenting facts. You support suppressing facts because you don't like them.

if you and others believe government can promote things you believe in, THEN government can promote things of other people you don't believe in.
 
the dishonesty in your posts and or lack of education on this topic is astounding

beliefs dont matter facts matter, trying to run from this is what got your post destroyed and is still getting your post destroyed.
Facts defeat you again and my anology about your failed logic was spot on

"yeah thats it, im going to yell at my school tomorrow, i dont want them teaching that old math that 2+2=4 when i know it equals five and they better not tell my kid all the left-handed people, redheaded people, blacks and or Catholic people and jewish people are normal!

how dare they!!!!! they are taking sides!!!!"


yep your argument is that silly and fails that bad

oh please!
 
if you and others believe government can promote things you believe in, THEN government can promote things of other people you don't believe in.

You seem to be having a problem with the difference between the word "fact" and the word "belief". Schools will teach facts. Many of those facts reside on my side of the issue. Schools should not teach values based beliefs, as YOU have stated. Many of those values based beliefs are on YOUR side of the issue. As I have stated, the problem here seems to be that you do not want facts presented because you don't like those facts. Why are you pro-censorship?
 
oh please!

if you want the destruction of your posts to stop simply start being honest about the situation. The solution is very simply and your issue to fix.

WHen you argue against facts you lose, its that simple
 
You seem to be having a problem with the difference between the word "fact" and the word "belief". Schools will teach facts. Many of those facts reside on my side of the issue. Schools should not teach values based beliefs, as YOU have stated. Many of those values based beliefs are on YOUR side of the issue. As I have stated, the problem here seems to be that you do not want facts presented because you don't like those facts. Why are you pro-censorship?

you do not get to determine what fact is.

I am pro-liberty, no person should ever have forced applied to them by government, unless they committed a crime, or their actions could cause a violation of another citizens rights.

government is not a moral authority and it has no power per the constitution to rule over our life's....that's what makes me a libertarian.
 
you do not get to determine what fact is.

I am pro-liberty, no person should ever have forced applied to them by government, unless they committed a crime, or their actions could cause a violation of another citizens rights.

government is not a moral authority and I has no power per the constitution to rule over our life's....that's what makes me a libertarian.

he didnt
he cant

facts just are

you can ignore them but nobody cares, you being dishonest and denying them doesnt change anything. They are still facts and youll never be able to change them. its hilarious you think you can.
 
if you want the destruction of your posts to stop simply start being honest about the situation. The solution is very simply and your issue to fix.

WHen you argue against facts you lose, its that simple

you have only facts you determine to be...... I can have facts to, which you would say are not.....that does not make it so.
 
you have only facts you determine to be...... I can have facts to, which you would say are not.....that does not make it so.

nope has nothing to do with me at all and continuing to post that lie doesnt fool anybody honest, objective and educated about this subject. PLEASE continue trying though its very amusing and entertaining for us.
 
he didnt
he cant

facts just are

you can ignore them but nobody cares, you being dishonest and denying them doesnt change anything. They are still facts and youll never be able to change them. its hilarious you think you can.

more of the same from you, always you claim everyone but you is dishonest and don't tell the truth...........again...oh please!
 
you do not get to determine what fact is.

I'M not determining anything. A fact is a fact. Research and studies prove my side correct on many of these issues.

I am pro-liberty, no person should ever have forced applied to them by government, unless they committed a crime, or their actions could cause a violation of another citizens rights.

government is not a moral authority and it has no power per the constitution to rule over our life's....that's what makes me a libertarian.

That's nice. Yet you seem to want to censor facts that you don't agree with. Tell me, how does that fit into your libertarian ideology?
 
more of the same from you, always you claim everyone but you is dishonest and don't tell the truth...........again...oh please!

thats right, just like i thought you got NOTHING
nope has nothing to do with me at all and continuing to post that lie doesnt fool anybody honest, objective and educated about this subject. PLEASE continue trying though its very amusing and entertaining for us.
 
nope has nothing to do with me at all and continuing to post that lie doesnt fool anybody honest, objective and educated about this subject. PLEASE continue trying though its very amusing and entertaining for us.

sure it does because your posting on the forum as what you think to be facts........however that's only your opinion.
 
you have only facts you determine to be...... I can have facts to, which you would say are not.....that does not make it so.

I can't have facts. You can't have facts. Facts ARE.
 
sure it does because your posting on the forum as what you think to be facts........however that's only your opinion.

nope has nothing to do with me at all and continuing to post that lie doesnt fool anybody honest, objective and educated about this subject. PLEASE continue trying though its very amusing and entertaining for us.
facts destroy you again
theres a simply solution, prove it. Let us know when you can post the facts that prove your false failed statement, cant wait to read it.
 
thats right, just like i thought you got NOTHING
nope has nothing to do with me at all and continuing to post that lie doesnt fool anybody honest, objective and educated about this subject. PLEASE continue trying though its very amusing and entertaining for us.

friend, your amateurish ways do not hold a candle, I don't care what you believe of me, you are free to think as you will and spout what you think to be truth.........feel free.
 
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