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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

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freedom-fighter said:
He's threatened by what he doesn't understand. That's the definition
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No, he just has his beliefs. And while I disagree with them just about as much as anyone on this forum, digsbe is anything but xenophobic.
 
digsbe said:
Excuse me?
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Yes? You are threatened by the idea of two people who love each other more than anything in the world because they're different. They just want the same title and benefits. It isn't going to destroy your American chrsitian institution of marriage and no one's going to force churches to marry people.
 
Your Star said:
No, he just has his beliefs. And while I disagree with them just about as much as anyone on this forum, digsbe is anything but xenophobic.
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Xenophobia: an unreasonable fear of that which is foreign or strange.
 
freedom-fighter said:
Yes? You are threatened by the idea of two people who love each other more than anything in the world because they're different. They just want the same title and benefits. It isn't going to destroy your American chrsitian institution of marriage and no one's going to force churches to marry people.
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Aren't you just a little quick to judge me simply based on my views and not my character? I could argue that you exhibit a xenophobic tendency towards those who are not in favor of gay marriage. It seems you are threatened what you don't understand (me). I don't support gay marriage, but I support civil unions. I have nothing against homosexuals. I'm for repealing DADT and I don't support persecuting homosexuals like several churches may do. I just don't support gay marriage.
 
digsbe said:
I feel there are good reasons to oppose it. One is that it improperly defines marriage and warps the roles of the husband and wife relationship at a legal level. My religious convictions lead me to believe that it's wrong and detrimental to people. I feel it's illogical to redefine marriage to include a relationship that breaks the definition of husband and wife and is abnormal compared to a man and woman marriage.
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all these have already been debunked
religon has no bearing
nothing gets "warped"
the man and women definition is no more than opinion that will still stay the same for each individual
 
Centrist77 said:
all these have already been debunked
religon has no bearing
nothing gets "warped"
the man and women definition is no more than opinion that will still stay the same for each individual
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In your opinion they have been debunked. For me they haven't been. I feel marriage is a union between a husband and wife with these roles being gender specific. This is why I support civil unions or creating a new institution for homosexuals.
 
digsbe said:
Aren't you just a little quick to judge me simply based on my views and not my character? I could argue that you exhibit a xenophobic tendency towards those who are not in favor of gay marriage. It seems you are threatened what you don't understand (me). I don't support gay marriage, but I support civil unions. I have nothing against homosexuals. I'm for repealing DADT and I don't support persecuting homosexuals like several churches may do. I just don't support gay marriage.
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Because you're irrationaly scared. Hence xenophobic. And no I undestand why you don't want gays to be married so im not a xenophobe. What's so wrong with a simple title? You don't want them to get their spouses benefits? And you know there are such things as gay christians to which the title of marriage is improtant
digsbe said:
In your opinion they have been debunked. For me they haven't been. I feel marriage is a union between a husband and wife with these roles being gender specific. This is why I support civil unions or creating a new institution for homosexuals.
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Marriage is about commitment and love. Not gender.
 
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@freedom-fighter, while I agree with your view on this subject, you are attacking another member here, one which I have alot of respect for. If you don't want this conversation, and any other conversation's you have on this site to go south, I suggest you stop attacking other members of this site.
 
digsbe said:
In your opinion they have been debunked. For me they haven't been. I feel marriage is a union between a husband and wife with these roles being gender specific. This is why I support civil unions or creating a new institution for homosexuals.
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no they have infact been debunked

like the original post says you are still free to teach, preach, believe what you want and I would never want that to change as I believe in that right also

but those reasons have soundly been debunked to STOP gay marriage
civil unions are currently not equal and thats easily argued discrimination
calling it anything else can easily be argued discrimination


not saying YOU because I dont know what you do this is just in general

but I find it hilarious theres people that play the religious card but yet dont cry about marriages in general. to me that equals HUGE hypocrisy. I could get marred tomorrow to a women by a singing elvis an nobody would say anything even though that SACRED word marriage and its sancity would be used to describe it but NO religion was used lol

A person could marry his car with no law involved of course and most people wouldnt cry about that just say that person is loony but most wouldnt say he is ruining the sanctity of marriage

but when two human consenting loving adults want to marry each other all hell breaks loose if they are same sex LMAO

its just impossible for me to fathom how any american thinks they have the right to tell another consenting adult who they can marry when that other person is a consenting adult, thats purely absurd and hypocritical.
 
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Your Star said:
@freedom-fighter, while I agree with your view on this subject, you are attacking another member here, one which I have alot of respect for. If you don't want this conversation, and any other conversation's you have on this site to go south, I suggest you stop attacking other members of this site.
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I'm just making points. I don't mean to offend but at the same time I don't much care if it's taken that way.
 
freedom-fighter said:
I'm just making points. I don't mean to offend but at the same time I don't much care if it's taken that way.
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You're not making points, you're attacking another member of the site, and that kind of behavior isn't conducive for rational debate.
 
BDBoop said:
So's shellfish. Are you picketing Red Lobster?
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That passage has to do with a diet high purines, which yes is harmful; as is sodomy. A single clam probably won't harm you, but make it a staple and you're in trouble.
 
Your Star said:
You're not making points, you're attacking another member of the site, and that kind of behavior isn't conducive for rational debate.
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Could you point to where I was attacking? I'd like to know.
 
BDBoop said:
Gotcha.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

By the same measure with which you judge, you will be judged.

He that is without sin cast the first stone.

Straining at gnats and swallowing camels comes to mind as well.
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You may want to take you're own advice with this post.
 
freedom-fighter said:
Why are you so ****ing xenophobic?
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This type post does not belong here. Make your point without calling our members names.

For the others. If you have a problem with some ones post, use the report post button, don't sidetrack a thread with whether or not something is against the rules or not allowed. Thank you
 
Centrist77 said:
but I find it hilarious theres people that play the religious card but yet dont cry about marriages in general.
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I like how you folks just pretend you don't slam us for virtually everything else we stand for when it suits you, like you're doing right now. Oh no, we don't take **** for our views on avoiding high-risk couples. No, you only come along and say "well as long as they're consenting adults". yeah, and then when the dysfunctions born from predictable behavior surface and that x-ian couple divorces, oh noes...even though WE told them they shouldn't marry and you told them they should.

You cause the problem and then blame us when what we told you was going to happen happens.
 
Jerry said:
I like how you folks just pretend you don't slam us for virtually everything else we stand for when it suits you, like you're doing right now. Oh no, we don't take **** for our views on avoiding high-risk couples. No, you only come along and say "well as long as they're consenting adults". yeah, and then when the dysfunctions born from predictable behavior surface and that x-ian couple divorces, oh noes...even though WE told them they shouldn't marry and you told them they should.

You cause the problem and then blame us when what we told you was going to happen happens.
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salm you? how lol
sorry I love my fellow american, believe in his rights, believe in his freedoms and thats why I refuse to discriminate against him, not my problem you seem to choose otherwise

also you and you made up theories have been debunked by Captian Courtesy 10 fold

high risk couples what ever that means is non of my business
interracial couples may be high risk?
rich family vs poor family might be high risk
etc etc etc none of that matters in reality to freedoms and not being discriminatory

also newsflash
if gay marriage was legalized right now, YOU STILL GET TO STAND FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT:lamo

it has no impact oooooops
 
freedom-fighter said:
?? What does that mean?
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Pairings which are the most likely to fail over time. Examples include the financially volatile, mixed race, mixed religion and 2 men (not 2 women).

The whole "let consenting adults do what they want" mantra ignores whether or not their choice is a smart or wise choice and how their relationship affects everyone else. No one lives in a vacuum.
 
Jerry said:
Pairings which are the most likely to fail over time. Examples include the financially volatile, mixed race, mixed religion and 2 men (not 2 women).

The whole "let consenting adults do what they want" mantra ignores whether or not their choice is a smart or wise choice and how their relationship affects everyone else. No one lives in a vacuum.
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So you are a conservative who believes in much more government control over personal decisions?
 
Centrist77 said:
salm you? how lol
sorry I love my fellow american, believe in his rights, believe in his freedoms and thats why I refuse to discriminate against him, not my problem you seem to choose otherwise

also you and you made up theories have been debunked by Captian Courtesy 10 fold

high risk couples what ever that means is non of my business
interracial couples may be high risk?
rich family vs poor family might be high risk
etc etc etc none of that matters in reality to freedoms and not being discriminatory

also newsflash
if gay marriage was legalized right now, YOU STILL GET TO STAND FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT:lamo

it has no impact oooooops
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:prof Sentences begin with capitol letters.
 
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