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Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)


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God didn't say so. The Bible says so. His representative on earth never said so, either.

In all seriousness, you may want to speak to a therapist. It's not normal to have such a visceral reaction to a person based only on your perception of their sexuality.

Homosexuality is wrong. God said so. That's enough for me. I obey His Word. Yes I know homosexuals. I find it creepy. My skin crawls when I'm around them even when I don't know for sure about their orientation.
 
Homosexuality is wrong. God said so. That's enough for me. I obey His Word. Yes I know homosexuals. I find it creepy. My skin crawls when I'm around them even when I don't know for sure about their orientation.

I bet that isnt true as i bet many times you have been around them and didnt know not to mention this is still MEANINGLESS to the debate

theres a huge list that the bible (not god) says is wrong and those arent law either and obviously you DO NOT obey his word and have already proved that you PICK AND CHOOSE when to obey his word
 
I bet that isnt true as i bet many times you have been around them and didnt know not to mention this is still MEANINGLESS to the debate
theres a huge list that the bible (not god) says is wrong and those arent law either and obviously you DO NOT obey his word and have already proved that you PICK AND CHOOSE when to obey his word

I do obey His Word. I live for Him, worship Him, and adore Him. The Bible is His living Word. I'm not going to fck with it.
 
I do obey His Word. I live for Him, worship Him, and adore Him. The Bible is His living Word. I'm not going to fck with it.

it could easily be argued that the above bolded sentence is in violation of his word, just an opinion but obviously you dont mind playing in the grey.

and ill say it again gay marriage wont have one single ffect on your obeying, living his word and adoring him. Not one.
 
Gotcha.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

By the same measure with which you judge, you will be judged.

He that is without sin cast the first stone.

Straining at gnats and swallowing camels comes to mind as well.


I do obey His Word. I live for Him, worship Him, and adore Him. The Bible is His living Word. I'm not going to fck with it.
 
A convert here, the homosexual is hard wired to be that - unfortunately - a freak of nature - no one asks to be"gay".
So, they may as well be happy and have rights.
They are but roughly 5% of the population; the unemployed are closer to 10% -this is what we should be working on.
 
Hello everyone, the other thread reached almost 2000 posts and 192 pages!!!!
It had to be closed because at around 2000 post it becomes taxing on the server, thanks independent_thinker2002

Anyway lets keep it going since we had some great talks, some people even woke up and saw theres no reason and some had some at least semi-sensible new angles but still fell short. Not to mention I wanna continue because its funs and supports my research.

Heres the link below and Ill also repost the OP.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/71580-gay-marriage-right-stop.html

Also just for an FYI the poll was spammed and the new one will be public but last CC (Captain Courtesy) checked it mirrored the results of the others I have conducted under THIS premise or is it right to stop not what you believe and that was AROUND 75% no and 25% yes.

Now on to the OP
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Not only am I looking for your opinion im looking for your reasoning if your answer is yes.

I have discussed gay marriage many many times and have yet to hear ONE sound, reasonable, logical, non-bias, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american reason to "Stop" gay marriage. Almost every reason I have ever heard was also used about women’s rights, equal rights, interracial marriage etc. the reason were dumb illogical then and the most certainly still are today, even more so since not only common sense and facts proves them wrong but history.

now mind you, pay attention to my verbiage, I said reason to STOP it.

That means in America I think its fine for anybody to:
THINK its wrong, gross or offensive etc
TEACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
PREACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
BELIEVE its wrong gross or offensive etc
FEEL its wrong gross or offensive etc
etc

and i also believe and support in your rights to do so but once you try to stop it I think you wrong on so many levels.
I can’t imagine how AMERICANS think they have the right to tell two CONSENTING ADULTS who and who they cant marry lmao

Does it get anymore pompous, arrogant, selfish, hypercritical and anti american than that. How anybody thinks they have the right to tell a consenting adult they cant marry another consenting adult is beyond me.

Also to be clear Im also not saying its wrong for you to VOTE on the subject everybody has that right of course.

I myself am not gay so I REALLY feel its non of my business but has an american I have to call BS on the other so called americans that do think its there business some how.

Anyway maybe this time will be different, it’ll actually be VERY interesting if it is different. So does anybody have ONE sound, reasonable, logical, non-bais, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american reason to "Stop" gay marriage.

Who thinks they have a sound reason why they should get to tell one American consenting adults they cant marry another consenting American adult.


Also for some reference Ill try to list the general reasons people thought of that have been thoroughly debunked.

Religion/god/bibleMeaningless and debunked

Slipper slope argument: I should be able to marry my dog, pedophiles marring children etc. – Ludicrous and debunked

Marriage is between a man and woman – this is a lie/opinion. Meaningless and debunked

Morals – your morals are subjective, shouldn’t be forced on others and your morals aren’t effected one bit, you still get to believe in them as you see fit. Meaningless and debunked

Gay Parents will “turn” their kids gay – LMAO this is also a uneducated fantasy. It has been proven that that children raised by gay parents are no more likely to be or not be gay. It has also been proven that children raised in a multi-parent home on average do better than a single parent home no matter the sex. Ignorant and debunked

Churches will lose their rights – another silly argument that appeals to emotion and could probably be added under the “slipper slope” argument as well. Churches are already protected and will never lose their rights, they discriminate RIGHT NOW against who they want including STRAIGHT couples and will be able to continue to do so under the first amendment. Ludicrous and debunked

Alright heres the most current update and lets have fun!
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OFFICIAL COUNTER
how many sound, reasonable, logical, non-bias, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american reason are there to "Stop" gay marriage

GOOD REASONS: 0

This is what liberals do. They change the definitions of words. The REAL definition of marriage is the union of one man with one woman ( regardless of race or ethnicity). It is not opinion or a lie. It is not meaningless nor been debunked.
 
God says in His Word that homosexuality is an abomination. He says marriage is between a man and a woman. It's Adam and Eve; not Adam and Steve. If homosexuals want to spit in His face and get married, they will pay the consequences, not me. So I guess I really don't care what they do. I just don't support it.
The word of god?
All of this was written by man, and at that time, man was awash in fear and ignorance.
Today, he is less so.
5,000 years ago, the homosexual fell by the wayside (or was pushed), today, he has achieved some equality.
Or, do you wish to return to the days of 5K years ago ?
 
Definitions do change over time, just like gay once meant happy.

This is what liberals do. They change the definitions of words. The REAL definition of marriage is the union of one man with one woman ( regardless of race or ethnicity). It is not opinion or a lie. It is not meaningless nor been debunked.
 
This is what liberals do. They change the definitions of words. The REAL definition of marriage is the union of one man with one woman ( regardless of race or ethnicity). It is not opinion or a lie. It is not meaningless nor been debunked.
Liberals nor conservatives change the meaning of words - Webster does.
I do not recall ever seeing that marriage was officially between a man and a woman ..
In the olden times, there was no reason to state this...homosexuals had no rights..even to live, at times. Should this state of affairs continue?
But the state should deem the homosexual "marriage" to be a civil union...
 
Then should not all marriages be declares civil unions?

Liberals nor conservatives change the meaning of words - Webster does.
I do not recall ever seeing that marriage was officially between a man and a woman ..
In the olden times, there was no reason to state this...homosexuals had no rights..even to live, at times. Should this state of affairs continue?
But the state should deem the homosexual "marriage" to be a civil union...
 
This is what liberals do. They change the definitions of words. The REAL definition of marriage is the union of one man with one woman ( regardless of race or ethnicity). It is not opinion or a lie. It is not meaningless nor been debunked.

LMAO hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
1 i am not a libral
2 that is NOT the real definition of marriage no matter what your OPINION is and that is a FACT

It has been thoroughly been debunked and you are under the misinformed opinion that it hasnt I glady invite you to support your opinion

at one time a lot of people in this country thought the definition of man was thought to be WHITE guess that was not an opinion or lie then too LMAO

Like I said support your claim or move on :)
 
Gay pride day usually falls on my birthday somewhere in the States. This used to bother me.

Another good word destroyed by homosexuals.
 
The word of god?
All of this was written by man, and at that time, man was awash in fear and ignorance.
Today, he is less so.
5,000 years ago, the homosexual fell by the wayside (or was pushed), today, he has achieved some equality.
Or, do you wish to return to the days of 5K years ago ?

The Holy Spirit inspired the authors of the Bible. I do not defend all that existed 5,000 years ago, but the Bible is the inerrant word of God.
 
LMAO hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
1 i am not a libral
2 that is NOT the real definition of marriage no matter what your OPINION is and that is a FACT

It has been thoroughly been debunked and you are under the misinformed opinion that it hasnt I glady invite you to support your opinion

at one time a lot of people in this country thought the definition of man was thought to be WHITE guess that was not an opinion or lie then too LMAO

Like I said support your claim or move on :)

I will move on, but it appears that you do not accept the truth even when it bites you on the nose.
 
I will move on, but it appears that you do not accept the truth even when it bites you on the nose.

Ill gladly accept truth once proved with PROOF AND FACTS but unfortunately for you all the proof and facts point the other way :)
 
Not really concerned over whether or not it's "right" to stop it, only that there is no rational reason to stop it that can be proven by secular means. This is why the religious right continues to be defeated on this matter.
 
Not really concerned over whether or not it's "right" to stop it, only that there is no rational reason to stop it that can be proven by secular means. This is why the religious right continues to be defeated on this matter.

agreed 100% and yes religion is a losing argument since we are talking rights and laws
 
more smugness only exposes you and will not make you right LMAO

the bold above is nothing more than your opinion, its already already been debunked and proved irreverent in the eyes of the law.

What else is it that we post on an internet forum... other than "opinion". The law changes... and the law you are claiming is only in a handful of states. Being direct and answering honestly isn't smugness - it's being direct. But I like it when you think I'm smug... I'll continue to be. And it so happens voters who elect the lawmakers agree with my view - especially in California. The judge, especially activist one's, will reflect what the lawmakers tell them to reflect. Laws also are not permanent. What is today, is gone tomorrow.


However... your little tantrums can be avoided if you just call gay unions something else. Then, I don't think the people or the lawmakers or the activist judges would have to be bothered. Stubborn and ignorant people who want their cake and eat it too usually get neither... which is what I'm pulling for in your case.
 
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