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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    When you say "teaching tolerance" you are essentially advocating the teaching of a particular moral virtue--or at least what you consider to be one. So that sort of defeats your own argument put forward in the first paragraph.
    I said teaching a standard moral code is worthless, since it will always contradict the moral codes of the majority; it will not contradict with the majority of the morals that the majority believes. Everyone will have one or two points that they disagree with; the problem is that's all that's needed to spark controversy. We've probably filled up several textbooks worth of debate on this one conflicting moral alone.

    That said, we all know that morals should be taught and that there is a subset of the range of moral codes that is essentially standard. By itself, this is simply not what anyone would call their moral code, so I don't consider it to be one. But, things like empathy, tolerance, and the golden rule are essential to every moral code I know of. There should be no debate on whether we teach tolerance in school, since it's not a moral that conflicts with any moral codes. We should teach select universal morals in school, and all that stems from them, but not any specific moral codes. For example, it would be wrong to teach Christian morality in school, but I expect the golden rule to be taught in school, even though that is one moral found in the Christian moral code. That's what I mean, if I wasn't clear before; we should teach a core set of morals, but not entire codes. The nuances and specifics of the different codes should be taught at home or in places of worship, where there is no conflict.

    There is an inherent contradiction to the Abrahamic moral code that is the source of this debate; you can't teach someone to tolerate human diversity and then teach them to shun people for being different. Since almost all codes contain the first part, and only a few emphasize the second, society should emphasize the first; that creates the minimum of moralistic contradictions.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    What does bestiality have to do with homosexuality? Why do you feel the need to distract from the question at hand by bringing up things that aren't related?

    Is it perhaps that you have no real reason for supporting discrimination against homosexuality accept through your own make believe that somehow allowing homosexuals to be d equal will magically undo all morals? Why didn't you just go all the way to murder.

    One time not that long ago same sex marriage was not legal. what is to stop murder from being legalized.

    Homosexuality isn't bestiality, murder, incest, theft, child molestation, arson, or any other sort of action that isn't homosexuality. So instead of pretending that it is some proverbial flood gate being open that you have to throw absurd arguments at to close, stop being a phony martyr and stop with the phony arguments.

    Explain why homosexuality should not be legally accepted keeping in mind that the bill of rights clearly states that the state shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion.
    1st Amendment doesn't mean there can't be a law related to a religion. Otherwise murder wouldn't be illegal. Nice try though.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    1st Amendment doesn't mean there can't be a law related to a religion. Otherwise murder would be illegal. Nice try though.
    Er murder is legal?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    1st Amendment doesn't mean there can't be a law related to a religion. Otherwise murder would be illegal. Nice try though.
    Huh? This post doesn't make any sense.
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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Er murder is legal?
    I suspect he mistyped. and meant legal. It's STILL a failed argument. Laws against murder are based on rights violations, not religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I suspect he mistyped. and meant legal. It's STILL a failed argument. Laws against murder are based on rights violations, not religion.
    couldn't he;p myself

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Er murder is legal?
    Typo, been fixed.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Huh? This post doesn't make any sense.
    Typo, see edit.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Typo, see edit.
    Yeah, I figured that's what you meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    You don't really post any valid arguments, so it's not that big of a stretch that you don't understand this discussion.

    You have failed to prove your case in every debate you have had with me. Me thinks it's due to your unwillingness to know when you are beaten.
    excuse me ....i did not enter into your discussion, i was address first with questions and i responded, that agent j words reminded me of something that is ALL

    so trying to say i know nothing of your discuss is ridiculous, because i have not entered into it here .

    so you little exercise of trying to prove me as i know nothing is your own failure here.
    Last edited by Master PO; 09-17-13 at 12:55 PM.

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