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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 64, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
    there will be no yes or no from me, because I am not stating he is right or wrong, or can you not figure that out yet?

    he and you believe he has the facts...other people would say you don't have the facts and they do.

    can only you and CC have facts and no one else can?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    there will be no yes or no from me, because I am not stating he is right or wrong, or can you not figure that out yet?

    he and you believe he has the facts...other people would say you don't have the facts and they do.

    can only you and CC have facts and no one else can?
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 65, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 65, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
    he thinks he did, so do you.....I don't know, ....others would say no.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    he thinks he did, so do you.....I don't know, ....others would say no.
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 66, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 66, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?


    must be easy just changing a number.

    he thinks he did, so do you.....I don't know, ....others would say no.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    must be easy just changing a number.

    he thinks he did, so do you.....I don't know, ....others would say no.
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 67, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and its that exact thinking that makes your post a failure

    failed deflection 67, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
    this is fun, its like the The Princess and the Pea.

    you are the Princess, and I am the pea............

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Hello everyone, the other thread reached almost 2000 posts and 192 pages!!!!
    It had to be closed because at around 2000 post it becomes taxing on the server, thanks independent_thinker2002

    Anyway lets keep it going since we had some great talks, some people even woke up and saw theres no reason and some had some at least semi-sensible new angles but still fell short. Not to mention I wanna continue because its funs and supports my research.

    Heres the link below and Ill also repost the OP.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...ight-stop.html

    Also just for an FYI the poll was spammed and the new one will be public but last CC (Captain Courtesy) checked it mirrored the results of the others I have conducted under THIS premise or is it right to stop not what you believe and that was AROUND 75% no and 25% yes.

    Now on to the OP
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    Not only am I looking for your opinion im looking for your reasoning if your answer is yes.

    I have discussed gay marriage many many times and have yet to hear ONE sound, reasonable, logical, non-bias, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american reason to "Stop" gay marriage. Almost every reason I have ever heard was also used about women’s rights, equal rights, interracial marriage etc. the reason were dumb illogical then and the most certainly still are today, even more so since not only common sense and facts proves them wrong but history.

    now mind you, pay attention to my verbiage, I said reason to STOP it.

    That means in America I think its fine for anybody to:
    THINK its wrong, gross or offensive etc
    TEACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
    PREACH its wrong gross or offensive etc
    BELIEVE its wrong gross or offensive etc
    FEEL its wrong gross or offensive etc
    etc

    and i also believe and support in your rights to do so but once you try to stop it I think you wrong on so many levels.
    I can’t imagine how AMERICANS think they have the right to tell two CONSENTING ADULTS who and who they cant marry lmao

    Does it get anymore pompous, arrogant, selfish, hypercritical and anti american than that. How anybody thinks they have the right to tell a consenting adult they cant marry another consenting adult is beyond me.

    Also to be clear Im also not saying its wrong for you to VOTE on the subject everybody has that right of course.

    I myself am not gay so I REALLY feel its non of my business but has an american I have to call BS on the other so called americans that do think its there business some how.

    Anyway maybe this time will be different, it’ll actually be VERY interesting if it is different. So does anybody have ONE sound, reasonable, logical, non-bais, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american reason to "Stop" gay marriage.

    Who thinks they have a sound reason why they should get to tell one American consenting adults they cant marry another consenting American adult.


    Also for some reference Ill try to list the general reasons people thought of that have been thoroughly debunked.

    Religion/god/bibleMeaningless and debunked

    Slipper slope argument: I should be able to marry my dog, pedophiles marring children etc. – Ludicrous and debunked

    Marriage is between a man and woman – this is a lie/opinion. Meaningless and debunked

    Morals – your morals are subjective, shouldn’t be forced on others and your morals aren’t effected one bit, you still get to believe in them as you see fit. Meaningless and debunked

    Gay Parents will “turn” their kids gay – LMAO this is also a uneducated fantasy. It has been proven that that children raised by gay parents are no more likely to be or not be gay. It has also been proven that children raised in a multi-parent home on average do better than a single parent home no matter the sex. Ignorant and debunked

    Churches will lose their rights – another silly argument that appeals to emotion and could probably be added under the “slipper slope” argument as well. Churches are already protected and will never lose their rights, they discriminate RIGHT NOW against who they want including STRAIGHT couples and will be able to continue to do so under the first amendment. Ludicrous and debunked

    Alright heres the most current update and lets have fun!
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    how many sound, reasonable, logical, non-bias, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american reason are there to "Stop" gay marriage

    GOOD REASONS: 0
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    this is fun, its like the The Princess and the Pea.

    you are the Princess, and I am the pea............

    failed deflection 68, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    failed deflection 68, simply stay on topic, stop deflecting and answer the question?

    did CC present facts. Yes or no?
    did CC present facts. Yes or no?

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