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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) people in general not official teachers depending on the circumstances.
    2.) see #1
    3.) i do say that so does the law, yes a public school has no business teaching homosexuality is wrong and gross
    4.) 100% factually false

    that depends on your subjective definition of "proper or good", the opposite is not true in general, again depending on how you magically define "good and proper"



    in school gender, sexuality, religion, disabilities, social/economic status and race among other things are taught to kids as: they exist, they are like everybody else, theres nothing wrong with them, we shouldn't judge them and in society its our duty to be civil in situations like these. The EXACT same thing said about them all.

    if this type of teaching bothers you, you do have some options, home school your kid or teach them the other tings you want them to know when they come home like most PARENTS.

    very simple solution

    also please save us from your POT, im just dealing in facts here
    how can the school promote one side of an equation and not the other?

    if the left hold power in government and create polices with our schools which promote things which you agree with, then cannot be the opposite exist, the right hold power in government and make polices with our schools which you disagree with.

    so if a CA wishes to teach one side, cannot AZ teach the other?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    information?. What kind of information....one which makes you happy and another person unhappy.

    understand please I am taking not stand in this thread of is homosexuality right or wrong.

    my point as a libertarian is government has no moral authority on either side of the issue.
    Information is information. If there is a class/discussion about sexuality, providing information about homosexuality is appropriate.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Information is information. If there is a class/discussion about sexuality, providing information about homosexuality is appropriate.
    again what kind of info,......that which places it in a positive light or a negative light?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again what kind of info,......that which places it in a positive light or a negative light?
    One can provide information without adding value to it. Here's an example:

    "The Union won the Civil War." That presents information, no value.
    "The Union defeated those evil slaveholders." That presents value.

    Here's another:

    "Research has shown that homosexuality is not a disorder, but just a different type of sexual orientation". That presents information, no value.
    "Homosexuality is cool and should be embraced by everyone". That presents value.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    1.)how can the school promote one side of an equation and not the other?

    2.)if the left hold power in government and create polices with our schools which promote things which you agree with, then cannot be the opposite exist, the right hold power in government and make polices with our schools which you disagree with.

    3.)so if a CA wishes to teach one side, cannot AZ teach the other?
    1.) they arent "promoting" any side.

    like i said "in school gender, sexuality, religion, disabilities, social/economic status and race among other things are taught to kids as: they exist, they are like everybody else, theres nothing wrong with them, we shouldn't judge them and in society its our duty to be civil in situations like these. The EXACT same thing said about them all."

    2.) see #1

    3.) see 1#
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    One can provide information without adding value to it. Here's an example:

    "The Union won the Civil War." That presents information, no value.
    "The Union defeated those evil slaveholders." That presents value.

    Here's another:

    "Research has shown that homosexuality is not a disorder, but just a different type of sexual orientation". That presents information, no value.
    "Homosexuality is cool and should be embraced by everyone". That presents value.


    so if a school stated that homosexuality is a normal and natural act...............is that info or value

    so if a school stated that homosexuality is a abnormal and unnatural act ......is that info or value

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so if a school stated that homosexuality is a abnormal and unnatural act ......is that info or value
    it would be incorrect

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so if a school stated that homosexuality is a normal and natural act...............is that info or value
    Depends on how it is communicated. If a school says that homosexuality is a normal orientation variant and is natural since it occurs in nature, that would be info, not value.

    so if a school stated that homosexuality is a abnormal and unnatural act ......is that info or value
    If the school stated that homosexuality is abnormal in a statistical sense, that is info. I cannot think of one instance where saying that it is an unnatural act would not be value.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    it would be incorrect
    but that is only opinion from you, others feel it is incorrect...so because you feel what you believe is correct...does that give you and others authority to have what you believe promoted?

    cannot others who feel different than you, have what they feel is correct promoted also?

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Depends on how it is communicated. If a school says that homosexuality is a normal orientation variant and is natural since it occurs in nature, that would be info, not value.



    If the school stated that homosexuality is abnormal in a statistical sense, that is info. I cannot think of one instance where saying that it is an unnatural act would not be value.
    but now you drawing a fine line, and that line can be crossed over very easy, and since people hold their own personal moral standard, people lean towards their own point of view when engaging in activity such as teaching

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