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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Only if you ignore the op. I asked for a reason in america that is sound, reasonable, logical, non-baised, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypocritical, non anti-american

    Those people in support of stopping it based on religion could easily be argued to be many if not all of the above things, therefore those have been debunked
    Not necessarily.

    If, as I said, I was approaching the question from the perspective of “what would constitute a valid reason to some random single person”.

    If we assume that this random person truly believes that their religious reason for opposing gay marriage is a valid one, and we further assume that they might also believe that their reason meets all of your criteria, said reason could, from their perspective, be seen as a valid one.

    Granted, it would seem unlikely to be a logical argument in that case, but it is also possible – after all, not all people come at things from the same angle…

    Further, such an argument would be highly unlikely to stand up to any kind of examination by one’s peers, or for that matter, anyone who does not hold the belief system that supports it.

    However, it does seem possible, while extremely remote.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    For some of us (and all I did was read the title) it actually causes heartache that people can't just BE. Happy together. I mean, there they are! Happy together. So why can't they be married?

    There's a couple in New York that's been together for 60 years. Oh, that's fine, right? As long as they don't - what's that saying? That fear everybody has, that they will somehow diminish or adversely affect the institution of marriage? Looks to me like they're living their vows better than the bulk of the straight married couples.
    oh I agree the sanctity of marriage that some often use is total hogwash because the fact remains 50% or marriage ends in divorce so if it ever had sanctity thats gone not to mention the fact that is a LEGAL issue, not religious, so that also takes that argument away.

    The majority of these same people dont cry if I go to vegas and get married by elvis or get married by a magistrate with no religion involved but they cry if its same sex, hypocritical much? LOL yes they are
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Not necessarily.

    If, as I said, I was approaching the question from the perspective of “what would constitute a valid reason to some random single person”.

    If we assume that this random person truly believes that their religious reason for opposing gay marriage is a valid one, and we further assume that they might also believe that their reason meets all of your criteria, said reason could, from their perspective, be seen as a valid one.

    Granted, it would seem unlikely to be a logical argument in that case, but it is also possible – after all, not all people come at things from the same angle…

    Further, such an argument would be highly unlikely to stand up to any kind of examination by one’s peers, or for that matter, anyone who does not hold the belief system that supports it.

    However, it does seem possible, while extremely remote.

    Meh.
    I cant possible see how unless you REMOVE America, laws, rights, freedoms, liberties and pursuit of happiness from the question?

    I mean I agree with what you said in general but once you bring america and law in it and ask the question from that angle its always going to fail.

    Of course I have been told by some people that GOD comes first even over america and its MAN MADE laws and thats fine for a PERSON to believe but that once they try to force that on me the quickly fit one of the names I listed.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    I cant possible see how unless you REMOVE America, laws, rights, freedoms, liberties and pursuit of happiness from the question?

    I mean I agree with what you said in general but once you bring america and law in it and ask the question from that angle its always going to fail.

    Of course I have been told by some people that GOD comes first even over america and its MAN MADE laws and thats fine for a PERSON to believe but that once they try to force that on me the quickly fit one of the names I listed.
    I overthink things from time to time.

    This was likely such a case.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I overthink things from time to time.

    This was likely such a case.
    nah, I liked your answer a lot and it had lots of logic in general about how a person should look at things, its just my OP is very specific.

    In general it fits how I think a LOT and I like it
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    wrong thread
    Last edited by AGENT J; 09-05-13 at 12:55 AM. Reason: copy and paste mistake
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    wrong thread
    I read like 3 pages and then prepared a few responses only to realize this thread is from 2010 >.>.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil900 View Post
    I read like 3 pages and then prepared a few responses only to realize this thread is from 2010 >.>.
    lol sorry

    wont hurt replying though
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    The act of homosexual sex is wrong.......It goes against everything God teaches.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The act of homosexual sex is wrong.......It goes against everything God teaches.
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