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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    and I repeat that wont matter if the courts rule differently. Your point is meaningless.
    Why is it that gay marriage is not legal in Calif and can't get married there??

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    Why is it that gay marriage is not legal in Calif and can't get married there??
    WOW?
    you do know the answer to that question has zero impact on what I said right? ZERO LMAO

    What part are you having trouble with, Im curious?

    one more time, try and understand. Try to understand and read it as many times as possible.

    A law or bill could pass with a 100% vote BUT if the courts rule differently that law or bill is meaningless so there for majority wil NOT always win.

    This is 100% fact and I have already given examples of it.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    Why is it that gay marriage is not legal in Calif and can't get married there??
    Because a lot of people are ignorant and intolerant sheep. They just listen to whatever is spoonfed to them and in this day and age that is homophobia and islamophobia.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Then go to church, raise what you consider to be a traditional American family and pass your morals onto them (although when they grow up they will likely have their own that you may not entirely agree with)
    Thank you, I'll do exactly that. Additionally, I'll vote my conscience every election, too. My vote, my choice, right? You believe in "choice" don't you? Sure you do. So yes, I'll raise my children how I wish, I'll worship how I wish, I'll vote how I wish, I'll support my political leaders how I wish...absolutely

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreReborn View Post
    Because a lot of people are ignorant and intolerant sheep. They just listen to whatever is spoonfed to them and in this day and age that is homophobia and islamophobia.
    unfortunatley this is true but im guessing in my life time this will change, at least on this issue
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    The majority won in Calif. and gay marriage didn't pass. That is my point about the majority vote.
    Have you ever heard of the tyranny of the majority? It's a situation the found fathers feared and that's one reason were are a republic and not a pure democracy. A majority of people should not be allowed to vote what a minority can or cannot do.


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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    I guess I don't understand the outrage for a couple of reasons. One, the idea that gay marriage will destroy the institution of marriage seems disingenuous when one considers 50% of marriages - across all spectra of Americans - ends in divorce. The gay community had nothing to do with that, as far as I can tell. Secondly, from a religious standpoint, marriage is a sacrament, a sacred oath, before God and His people that has everything to do with religion and nothing to do with secular society. Third, where secular society is concerned (as in civil government), it is nothing more than a legal contract which can be forever dissolved with the stroke of a judge's pen. The marriage itself takes about 2 minutes at the county seat. It has nothing to do with anything "Holy." That is the Sacrament of Marriage's job, isn't it? That's the true declaration before God and The Church and the only one that really matters, right?

    The real question to me, and one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned (that I know of), is the question of straight folks who have chosen living together over traditional marriage. If one allows civil unions, what prevents your average straight couple living together from claiming access to civil unions? Then their unmarried partner has access to health care and legal decisions and property, etc. It becomes a mess. Better to leave the discussion about marriage, I think.

    Just be done with it. Nobody will catch The Gay.

    One more thing: Civil Rights questions should never, ever, ever be put on a ballot initiative. Think about it. How many votes would there have been for women's suffrage at the time?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    I think it's wrong to push for it I have the right to believe, argue, and enact my opinion regarding gay marriage into law.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Thank you, I'll do exactly that. Additionally, I'll vote my conscience every election, too. My vote, my choice, right? You believe in "choice" don't you? Sure you do. So yes, I'll raise my children how I wish, I'll worship how I wish, I'll vote how I wish, I'll support my political leaders how I wish...absolutely
    All within your power. We have the courts to handle things which are unconstitutional.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's wrong to push for it I have the right to believe, argue, and enact my opinion regarding gay marriage into law.
    correct you do have the right to think its wrong to push for it


    correct you do have the right to believe, argue, and enact my opinion regarding gay marriage into law.

    - but again theres no reasons that are sound, reasonable, logical, non-bias, non-selfish, non-arrogant, non-hypercritical, non anti-american and non-discriminative.

    Thats the discussion
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