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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Ha!

    no that doesnt work
    Oh ok
    What about if they thinks its really really icky?
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Being against SSM is idiotic, bigotry and simply an all round disrespectful manner of thinking...
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Being against SSM is idiotic, bigotry and simply an all round disrespectful manner of thinking...
    I dont think they are thinking, they are coming to their conclusions based on emotions.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Oh ok
    What about if they thinks its really really icky?
    not even if its whole bunches, huge, big time, lots, gigunda amounts icky
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    well here we are

    2 threads, one closed on size (approx 3300 posts), and 22 states laster and there is still no reason to stop equal rights, they have all been thoroughly debunked, and many in court now.

    It was obvious 4 years ago equal rights was coming we just didnt know when, now it lloks like it will be 2016 at the longest!

    WHY TO GO AMERICA, FINALLY RIGHTING THIS WRONG!

    Changes/Updates in RED
    10/12/2014 Version 17.0

    30 States with Equal Rights 5falling soon due to federal court precedent and 10 Stayed/Appealed/Pending

    30 States with Equal Rights

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    FALL OF DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Illinois - (ruled on Nov 20th 2013) June 1, 2014 effective
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013
    New Mexico – December 19, 2013
    GSK v. Abbott Laboratories - January 21, 2014 (could be huge in gay rights, discrimination/heightened scrutiny)
    Oregon May 19, 2014
    Pennsylvania May 20, 2014
    Utah Oct. 6, 2014
    Oklahoma Oct. 6, 2014
    Virginia Oct. 6, 2014
    Wisconsin Oct 6,. 2014
    Indiana Oct 6, 2014
    Colorado Oct 7, 2014
    Nevada Oct. 9, 2014
    West Virginia Oct. 9, 2014
    North Carolina Oct. 10, 2014
    Idaho - May Oct 10, 2014
    Alaska – Oct 13, 2014

    5Will fall soon due to federal appellate court precedent.
    Arizona
    Kansas
    Montana
    South Carolina
    Wyoming

    7 Stayed/Appealed/Pending
    Arkansas - May 5, 2014 (Stayed)
    Florida - July 17th, 2014
    Kentucky - February 14, 2014 (Must recognize out-of-state marriages which will lead to their ban being defeated)
    Michigan - March 21, 2014 (Stayed)
    Ohio - April, 2014 Trial had narrow ruling that Ohio will recognize OTHER state marriages but didn’t impact bans. New cases expected.
    Tennessee March, 2014 (Direct US Constitution Challenge)(Prilim in and 3 couples are recognized, later broader ruling coming)
    Texas - February 26, 2014 (Stayed)

    8 States Working Towards Equal Rights

    7 States with Pending Court Cases to Establish Equal Rights
    Alabama
    Georgia
    Louisiana
    Mississippi
    Nebraska
    North Dakota
    South Dakota

    1 States with Court Cases and Legislation to establish Equal Rights
    Missouri


    thats 50 states that could have equal rights by 2016 and some much sooner!

    US Court of Appeals Tracker
    Map: Court Locator
    1st - all states have equal rights
    2nd - all states have equal rights
    3rd - pending
    4th - ruled for equal rights, states to fall shortly
    5th- pending
    6th - pending
    7th- ruled for equal rights, states to fall shortly
    8th- nothing pending, talks of two cases
    9th- pending (statement released "as soon as possible")
    10th - ruled for equal rights, states to fall shortly
    11th - pending



    State Attorney Generals no longer defending the bans due to their unconstitutionality
    California (Has equal rights now)
    Illinois (Has Equal rights now)
    Kentucky
    Nevada
    Oregon (has equal rights now)
    Pennsylvania(has equal rights now)
    Virginia(stayed)

    THERE ARE NO STATES LEFT NOT FIGHTING FOR EQUAL RIGHTS

    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!

    also please feel free to let me know of any corrections or updates that need made, equality is kicking so much ass its hard to keep up, thanks

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Heard about Alaska on the radio last night - are they going to appeal that? It wasn't too clear on the radio news, since they only spent a few seconds on it.

    Edit: Another thing...the recent SCOTUS decision not to hear appeals on the subject because it's a matter for the states.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)Heard about Alaska on the radio last night - are they going to appeal that? It wasn't too clear on the radio news, since they only spent a few seconds on it.

    Edit: Another thing...the recent SCOTUS decision not to hear appeals on the subject because it's a matter for the states.
    Do I have that right?
    1.) they said they would appeal but we'll see either way the appeal is pretty meaningless, its just a delay tactic
    2.) no you dont have that right, if SCOTUS decided it was up to the states they would have took the case and said the fed overreached and let the states make the choice.

    Instead what happened is SCOTUS agrees with the lower feds that have already ruled, it was in fact that states that clearly overreached and stepped on individual rights and freedom and the state bans that were ruled unconstitutional stay that way and it basically let another so many states in the door, see above.

    SO the result is the lower rulings of the bans being unconstitutional stays in place and 11 more states could now open up. Well 11 from the stays that were in place etc
    5 were immediately affected Virginia, Indiana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma and Utah, next 6 are North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, Colorado, Kansas and Wyoming

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/06/supreme-court-gay-marriage/16546959/
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) they said they would appeal but we'll see either way the appeal is pretty meaningless, its just a delay tactic
    2.) no you dont have that right, if SCOTUS decided it was up to the states they would have took the case and said the fed overreached and let the states make the choice.

    Instead what happened is SCOTUS agrees with the lower feds that have already ruled, it was in fact that states that clearly overreached and stepped on individual rights and freedom and the state bans that were ruled unconstitutional stay that way and it basically let another so many states in the door, see above.

    SO the result is the lower rulings of the bans being unconstitutional stays in place and 11 more states could now open up. Well 11 from the stays that were in place etc
    5 were immediately affected Virginia, Indiana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma and Utah, next 6 are North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, Colorado, Kansas and Wyoming

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/06/supreme-court-gay-marriage/16546959/
    Ah, I had that partially confused.

    Basically SCOTUS said "these rulings appear to be on target, no appeal for you".
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Ah, I had that partially confused.

    Basically SCOTUS said "these rulings appear to be on target, no appeal for you".
    basically
    and even if they dont actually feel that way, its the effect thier decision has. The lower fed court rulings stand and every state in that district must comply.
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