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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I and many others do not think it sensible to deny others rights because some people get offended for no good reason
    Sure. There is always a reason. But why offend people without a real reason. I do not understand why some here and "many others" want to be rude. But, as the man said: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If that is what you think. I am not here to teach you.
    If Christian leaders do not agree even among themselves on SSM why would you bother to bring up what a specific Christian thinks? It is irrelevant.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Words change meanings all the time. We don't write laws to stop people from changing what they mean when they use a word.
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    Yes. I thought about that. In this case it is the law that is changing the meaning or trying to at least.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Sure. There is always a reason. But why offend people without a real reason. I do not understand why some here and "many others" want to be rude. But, as the man said: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
    Exactly why offend and deny rights to SS couples with no real reason? I do not understand how so many people can be against SSM and pretend that it is not because of their bigotry but instead because they just think that how they views the world should be how things should remain for all time.
    Agreed about the fanatic bit so please stop acting like one.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    If Christian leaders do not agree even among themselves on SSM why would you bother to bring up what a specific Christian thinks? It is irrelevant.
    Actually, it would appear that the Christian denomination that sees it as described above is the largest church globally and including the others with similar codices we are speaking of a vast majority of Christianity. If you want to nitpick that is okay, though. But this is a silly discussion.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually, it would appear that the Christian denomination that sees it as described above is the largest church globally and including the others with similar codices we are speaking of a vast majority of Christianity. If you want to nitpick that is okay, though. But this is a silly discussion.
    Agreed any discussion of religious beliefs when it comes to secular SSM is a complete waste of time. Religious opinion on the subject is completely irrelevant.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Exactly why offend and deny rights to SS couples with no real reason? I do not understand how so many people can be against SSM and pretend that it is not because of their bigotry but instead because they just think that how they views the world should be how things should remain for all time.
    Agreed about the fanatic bit so please stop acting like one.
    On the other hand, your gay is the other's bigot.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Agreed any discussion of religious beliefs when it comes to secular SSM is a complete waste of time. Religious opinion on the subject is completely irrelevant.
    Now that is an interesting point. Actually it is a waste of time discussing it with the gay person as much as with the religious one. Both have, what they think is an existentially important view. So lets call it a day.

    PS: I am neither religious nor gay.

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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Now that is an interesting point. Actually it is a waste of time discussing it with the gay person as much as with the religious one. Both have, what they think is an existentially important view. So lets call it a day.

    PS: I am neither religious nor gay.
    No it isn't as SSM affects gay people it has no bearing on religious people unless they also happen to be gay
    I could care less if you were religious/gay/straight/atheist/extra-terrestrial.
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    Re: Gay Marriage, is it right to stop it? (PART II)

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    No it isn't as SSM affects gay people it has no bearing on religious people unless they also happen to be gay
    I could care less if you were religious/gay/straight/atheist/extra-terrestrial.
    That is the way you see it. They view it differently.

    And when gays want to have tax money as the ssm guy want, it has bearing on everyone. That is quite trivial.

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