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    Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Actually even before the creation of saving people from evil capitalists, the U.S. was one of the top 6 countries, in regards to life expectancy.

    Government had little to do with protecting us from the "evil."
    Those things still existed, and needed to be stopped.
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    Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Those things still existed, and needed to be stopped.
    It was well on it's decline.

    Most things we think government solved, didn't happen that way they just take credit for what was already going on.

    Work place safety was well on the down trend before OSHA was created in the 1970's.
    We don't consider the 1960's to be a time of worker death by exploitation.
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    Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Child labor
    Horrible work hours
    unsafe work conditions
    unsafe products
    unfair pay
    exploitation of minorities
    should I go on?
    I would agree with a minimal regulation standard for food inspection, and safe work conditions. Child labor has been banned for quite some time, because our society progressed to the point where it is now more beneficial to have the regulation than to not. Back in the 1880's, many children worked to help support the family (which was largely starving). The conditions of the time basically forced these children to sacrifice safety at work for dinner at home. Don't forget, also, that this period of time saw the creation of many of the greatest private charitable organizations.

    "Horrible work hours" is a bit foolish. My case to deregulate does not rely on any arguments related to overtime hours. I believe workers should be paid for their hours worked, and should have the liberty to go home at any time.

    For the most part, I do think it should be the responsibility of each individual consumer to seek his own information regarding the products and services he purchases. I'm especially against the idea that you do not have freedom over your own body. The FDA prohibits certain terminally ill patients from using certain drugs if they do not meet the highest of governmental standards. The DEA takes away your right to self-medicate using whatever substance you wish to use.

    "Unfair pay" is very much related to horrible work hours. Minimum wage laws do not, in any way, benefit anyone except big business. Walmart recently came out in favor of a minimum wage hike. Given that they already pay the average worker far above the minimum wage, the intention is simply meant to harm competition. How does it make sense to raise the minimum wage if all it is a guaranteed inflation in the price of everything?

    Exploitation of minorities? Granted, I don't agree with the Arizona law, but for the most part this country is a nation of immigrants for a very good reason. It's essentially a haven for the rest of the world. Is the acceptance of a large mosque and community center near the WTC site a sign of exploiting the immigrants? Do we exploit Indian or Jewish minorities? They are the two most successful minority groups in the country.

    Yes, please go on.

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    Re: Do you have a positive or negative view of MICHAEL MOORE and WHY...

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    From the history books:
    The pure food and drug act
    consumer protection acts
    the clean air and water acts
    other liberals and independents can name more
    This is almost identical to the points Your Star posted. You'll have to read and respond to my response post to her.

    BTW, I actually consider myself a conservationist libertarian, meaning that I believe one of the fundamental roles of government is to protect the environment. This is where I disagree with many libertarians.
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