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Your views on euthanisia, assisted suicide, suicide and attempted suicide.

What are your views on euthanasia, assisted suicide, suicide and attempted suicide?

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Well I don't have a issue with suicide as long as it is not state sponsored.
 
Dav said:
I wouldn't mind legal assisted suicide for permanent conditions (i.e. terminal illness). If you're going to die, you might as well do it peacefully.

I am definitely, definitely against assisted suicide for depression cases. It is a permanent "solution" to a temporary problem, and pretty much all depressed people who are stopped by others from killing themselves are later glad that they didn't go through with it. I hate the idea of doctors being able to take advantage of someone's mental disorder, for profit nonetheless. And frankly, anyone who thinks that it's "their own business" ought to talk to the families of suicide victims. Not to mention the questionable mental state of anyone who seriously attempts suicide; most attempts, though, are just desperate cries for help and don't succeed.
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This, basically sums up my whole position.
 
I see my mother's life. I do not want to live it. It is a horrible disease. I would just want out.

Your friend never lost his mind.

bicycleman said:
If your brain had left the building, how would you know that you wanted out of this life? For that matter how would you even know you were in diapers?

An overweight friend of mine had a stroke, once. He was recovering rather nicely when he slipped in the bathtub and broke both his legs. It was so bad for them, that his wife couldn't help him because of his immense weight. They eventually put him in a nursing home, just so he could receive therapy. Rather than try to lift him up to get him to a bathroom, they put diapers on him. He described to me how humiliating it was, but there was no other solution. For as long as I knew him, he had been fat. He passed away 5 years ago, but even in his debilitated condition, he never lost the will to live.
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I support men going out in really bad ass ways so they don't die a horrible painful death. For example: How to kill yourself like a man.

Me personally, I want to jump out of a plane, and aim for my grave hole that way not only do I have a funeral, but the folks that came out get a show to, and hot wings and open bar also.
 
JohnWOlin said:
I support men going out in really bad ass ways so they don't die a horrible painful death. For example: How to kill yourself like a man.

Me personally, I want to jump out of a plane, and aim for my grave hole that way not only do I have a funeral, but the folks that came out get a show to, and hot wings and open bar also.
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I wanna get cremated, and have my ashes shot out of a cannon so I can go out with a bang :2razz:
 
Your Star said:
I wanna get cremated, and have my ashes shot out of a cannon so I can go out with a bang :2razz:
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Why even get cremated? Attach some rockets and fireworks to ya and volunteer your body to the army. That way you can take out some assholes with you (by then I assume we will be in WWIII against Iceland)
 
I support euthanasia for the terminally ill who are suffering in pain if that is their wish. I do not support forced euthanasia of any kind, especially government enforced euthanasia. Doctors don't commit assisted suicide because they want to kill someone. They do it because they know their patients condition, the pain they are in, and have compassion on the dying when there is absolutely nothing they can do for them.
 
JohnWOlin said:
Why even get cremated? Attach some rockets and fireworks to ya and volunteer your body to the army. That way you can take out some assholes with you (by then I assume we will be in WWIII against Iceland)
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I knew we shouldn't of trusted Iceland, especially after Mighty Ducks 2

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Suicide is an honorable end to a life that is no longer worth living. We should be supportive of people who are ready to die, honor their decision, and respect those that they have trusted enough to request their assistance.
 
I think Assisted suicide, which I suppose can be considered Euthanasia ought to be legal under certain circumstances. If you have a terminal illness and you are suffering then assisted suicide should absolutely be an option. I can't think of a good reason for it not to be, the only point against it is based on religious values which clearly doesn't make a strong case. I think it is one of those issues though that politicians are afraid to tackle.
 
Judging by the posts on this thread, our politicians are letting us down once again. What a surprise.
 
Johnny said:
In my opinion, euthanisia and assisted should be legal.
I am also against hospitalizing people against their will for attempting suicide.

Whether or not we agree with something shouldn't be a reason to ban it. In a free society we are our owners.

It's my life. It's your life. As we have a right to our life that includes the right to end it if we feel it's necessary.

It is the role of government to protect or civil liberties. Not to protect us from ourselves.

The same can be said for many other laws.

Post your thoughts here.
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Anyone who successfully commits suicide, should be thrown in jail.
 
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Johnny said:
In my opinion, euthanisia and assisted should be legal.
I am also against hospitalizing people against their will for attempting suicide.

Whether or not we agree with something shouldn't be a reason to ban it. In a free society we are our owners.

It's my life. It's your life. As we have a right to our life that includes the right to end it if we feel it's necessary.

It is the role of government to protect or civil liberties. Not to protect us from ourselves.

The same can be said for many other laws.

Post your thoughts here.
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I do not support any of those things. A mentally healthy person is not going to kill themselves. You don't let crazy people mutilate their bodies or kill themselves. Nor should a innocent human being be put to death against their will. As far as a lot of people are concerned there is no heaven,reincarnation or any of that other stuff and for those of us who do believe in those things there is no guarantee that you'll go to heaven or be reincarnated or something else. So it would behoove a lot of people to try to hang onto to their life as long as possible regardless of the pain and other inconveniences. There are people in **** hole third world war torn countries starving, suffering and victims of local wars who are glad to be alive and hang on to life but yet people in well to do countries such as ours act as though life is no big deal like its a penny you find on the street.
 
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There's a lot to be said for the quality of that life. And each and every person who chooses to leave this life, REGARDLESS of what is or is not to follow? That's still theirs to own.

jamesrage said:
I do not support any of those things. A mentally healthy person is not going to kill themselves. You don't let crazy people mutilate their bodies or kill themselves. Nor should a innocent human being be put to death against their will. As far as a lot of people are concerned there is no heaven,reincarnation or any of that other stuff and for those of us who do believe in those things there is no guarantee that you'll go to heaven or be reincarnated or something else. So it would behoove a lot of people to try to hang onto to their life as long as possible regardless of the pain and other inconveniences.
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bicycleman said:
You all need to be careful what you wish for. Does anyone remember the old movie, "Soylent Green" starring the late Charleton Heston? That was a futuristic movie where old people were encouraged to go to a place, take a shot and die. Then their bodies were disposed of by the state, mandatory. There was a reason they wanted the bodies, though. You see the bodies were the main ingredient of the wonder food, Soylent Green. Far fetched? Well, I've seen some unusual things come down the pike in the last few years.
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IIRC, old in the movie was 30 years or so....
 
I have Parkinson's, first stage. There are 5 stages, and up to stage 3 it isn't too bad. Stage 4 won't be much fun, tho, and stage 5, well, I hope to die of something else before I get to stage 5. If I don't, I hope to be able to end my life on my own near the end of stage 4.
 
I'm supposed to go in for testing to 'rule out' Parkinson's, or LBD. :( I am afraid.


UtahBill said:
I have Parkinson's, first stage. There are 5 stages, and up to stage 3 it isn't too bad. Stage 4 won't be much fun, tho, and stage 5, well, I hope to die of something else before I get to stage 5. If I don't, I hope to be able to end my life on my own near the end of stage 4.
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BDBoop said:
I'm supposed to go in for testing to 'rule out' Parkinson's, or LBD. :( I am afraid.
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What is LBD? Lewey Bodies?
They say that a certain percentage of PD patients will get some kind of dementia, and that scares me more than the PD. Spending my life with minimal control of my body I can deal with, up to a point, but when the mind goes, and I don't even know my own relatives anymore, that is too much for me to deal with.
I understand your fear, and good luck with your testing..
 
jamesrage said:
I do not support any of those things. A mentally healthy person is not going to kill themselves. You don't let crazy people mutilate their bodies or kill themselves. Nor should a innocent human being be put to death against their will. As far as a lot of people are concerned there is no heaven,reincarnation or any of that other stuff and for those of us who do believe in those things there is no guarantee that you'll go to heaven or be reincarnated or something else. So it would behoove a lot of people to try to hang onto to their life as long as possible regardless of the pain and other inconveniences. There are people in **** hole third world war torn countries starving, suffering and victims of local wars who are glad to be alive and hang on to life but yet people in well to do countries such as ours act as though life is no big deal like its a penny you find on the street.
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You must be quite young, JamesRage. I could understand someone arguing on religious grounds, which I'd also argue right back, but to, in essence, say that one should hang on to life at all costs tells me that you haven't had a lot of experience with really, really sick people.
 
Yes, my mother is currently dying of LBD - and by currently I mean for the past five years. She is now at the point where she looks like a dead wax figure, and knows no one. But her heart just keeps on beating.

UtahBill said:
What is LBD? Lewey Bodies?
They say that a certain percentage of PD patients will get some kind of dementia, and that scares me more than the PD. Spending my life with minimal control of my body I can deal with, up to a point, but when the mind goes, and I don't even know my own relatives anymore, that is too much for me to deal with.
I understand your fear, and good luck with your testing..
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MaggieD said:
You must be quite young, JamesRage. I could understand someone arguing on religious grounds, which I'd also argue right back, but to, in essence, say that one should hang on to life at all costs tells me that you haven't had a lot of experience with really, really sick people.
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My next door neighbor took 4 years to die of prostate cancer. The pain near the end was terrible. He had to take a lot of pain pills and they didn't always work. He died in Hospice care. The nurses who work at Hospice centers are dealing with this issue a lot. They have my praise. Beats me how they can work with terminal patients all the time and keep their sanity.
Even worse, those nurses working at children's hospitals. It is bad enough to watch old people die, but children? My granddaughter (inoperable brain tumor) goes to Camp Rainbow every year, and each year she finds that some of her Rainbow friends have not survived.
 
Johnny said:
In my opinion, euthanisia and assisted should be legal.
I am also against hospitalizing people against their will for attempting suicide.

Whether or not we agree with something shouldn't be a reason to ban it. In a free society we are our owners.

It's my life. It's your life. As we have a right to our life that includes the right to end it if we feel it's necessary.

It is the role of government to protect or civil liberties. Not to protect us from ourselves.

The same can be said for many other laws.

Post your thoughts here.
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I think it's OK in a very limited set of circumstances: when a person has a terminal illness with no chance of recovery, is of sound mind, and is in great pain. I also think it's OK for people who have been sentenced to life in prison and are of sound mind.

I completely disagree that people should generally not be hospitalized for attempting suicide. Yes, "we are our owners"...if we are of sound mind. And generally speaking, people who want to commit suicide (for some reason other than the ones I listed above) are NOT of sound mind. They need professional help; they do not need to be left to do whatever they want.
 
Kandahar said:
I completely disagree that people should generally not be hospitalized for attempting suicide. Yes, "we are our owners"...if we are of sound mind. And generally speaking, people who want to commit suicide (for some reason other than the ones I listed above) are NOT of sound mind. They need professional help; they do not need to be left to do whatever they want.
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They are in as much pain as anyone suffering from a terminal illness and their desire to die deserves as much respect.
 
Kandahar said:
I completely disagree that people should generally not be hospitalized for attempting suicide. Yes, "we are our owners"...if we are of sound mind. And generally speaking, people who want to commit suicide (for some reason other than the ones I listed above) are NOT of sound mind. They need professional help; they do not need to be left to do whatever they want.
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This makes no sense to me.

We all can't be rich, we all can't have the life we want. That's because life is not fair. That's just the way it is.

So why take away a person's right to end their life when they want.

I think the only reason more people don't commit suicide is because of the stigma attached to it.

Why are they not of sound mind?

Who gives the government the right to make tha decision?
 
jamesrage said:
I do not support any of those things. A mentally healthy person is not going to kill themselves. You don't let crazy people mutilate their bodies or kill themselves. Nor should a innocent human being be put to death against their will. As far as a lot of people are concerned there is no heaven,reincarnation or any of that other stuff and for those of us who do believe in those things there is no guarantee that you'll go to heaven or be reincarnated or something else. So it would behoove a lot of people to try to hang onto to their life as long as possible regardless of the pain and other inconveniences. There are people in **** hole third world war torn countries starving, suffering and victims of local wars who are glad to be alive and hang on to life but yet people in well to do countries such as ours act as though life is no big deal like its a penny you find on the street.
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Why not? It's their life and their body. There's no justification in protecting one from themself. If they're not a danger to the public, a danger to oneself is no justification for the government to intervene.
There is a lot more poverty in America than people are willing to believe. Just because the country is well off doesn't mean it's people are.
 
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