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When should the United States of America go to war?

When should the United States of America go to war?


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Not propaganda. There were dozens of verses from the Koran on there proving how Muslims are taught from birth to hate/kill infidels.

Why dont you buy a Quaran and actually find those versus. How much do you want a bet they are not actually in there?

Not a radical or a Jew, but I do love Jews. They are God's chosen.

"Jews are Gods chosen"? Is this supposed to make you credible?

I don't kill people for not believing as I do. I don't threaten them, commit violent crimes if I am offended, or act like a wild animal. I don't hate women and treat them like garbage. I love Jesus Christ/God, not a moon god. Aren't personal attacks bannable offenses?

I didn't attack you, i'm asking how a "all loving Christian" whose religion is taught to "tolerate and love" can actually sign up to a forum and slander Islam and show a clear hatred and distate towards it?
 
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Or just because we want it. We sent gunships to Japan to get them to reconsider their isolationist policies. Personally, I consider looting to be a perfectly valid reason for a war, but it isn't fair that our soldiers aren't allowed to profit from this kind of blatant economic bullying.

Yeah, but sadly we have rules against piracy now. So looting in and of itself is not a perfectly valid reason for war. It's a perfectly stupid reason for war though.
 
As in, when an "opportunity" presents itself (however slight and flimsy, or great and imperative), what reasons/incidents do you consider necessary to justify the USA going to war, or even a "conflict/whatever".

Please choose your generalized poll option and post with your reasons for doing so.

There are a lot of 'real' answers, but the question SHOULD be posed "when do democrats support war" answer that is most relevant considering our history is "whenever a democrat president takes us to war, regardless of the justification."
 
There are a lot of 'real' answers, but the question SHOULD be posed "when do democrats support war" answer that is most relevant considering our history is "whenever a democrat president takes us to war, regardless of the justification."
Not the topic of discussion.

Answer the poll/OP question.

Or leave.
 
The Koran tells Muslims to kill non-believers. The Bible tells Christians to try to convert non-believers in love. Not by sawing their faces off.
Much like very few (if any) Christians follow to the letter everything the Bible tells them to do, so also does only a minority of Muslims follow what they think is the Koran telling them to kill "infidels".

And what’s with the “sawing their faces off”?
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All that said, I haven't read the Koran in part or in whole, so I have no idea if you are correct or incorrect.

However, have you read that which you make claims upon?
 
Why dont you buy a Quaran and actually find those versus. How much do you want a bet they are not actually in there? "Jews are Gods chosen"? Is this supposed to make you credible? I didn't attack you, i'm asking how a "all loving Christian" whose religion is taught to "tolerate and love" can actually sign up to a forum and slander Islam and show a clear hatred and distate towards it?
I posted proof but of course you will deny it. The Bible says Jews are God's chosen people. Don't like it? Take it up with Him. And He is NOT "Allah". My God and your god are two different beings. I am not slandering Islam. I posted the truth. And that infuriates you. Muslims like to keep Americans stupid about Islam. It makes their jihad-planning in their mosques a whole lot easier. Many Americans fear Muslims. I fear NOTHING and NO ONE!
Much like very few (if any) Christians follow to the letter everything the Bible tells them to do, so also does only a minority of Muslims follow what they think is the Koran telling them to kill "infidels".And what’s with the “sawing their faces off”?All that said, I haven't read the Koran in part or in whole, so I have no idea if you are correct or incorrect.However, have you read that which you make claims upon?
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Christians follow the New Testament since we follow Jesus Christ. Jews tend to follow the Old. Most Muslims admit they want world domination/Sharia Law. Muslims/terrorists saw the faces off of many "infidels" they capture. They like to saw off heads, too. They are VERY barbaric. And yes I read/posted proof.
FOXNews.com - Militants Behead American Hostage in Iraq - U.S. & World
New York: Moderate Muslim wife beheader says the beheading was justified because his wife was mean to him - Jihad Watch
Answering Muslims: Muslim Child Beheads a Man
 
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Most Muslims admit they want world domination/Sharia Law.
Prove it. Most? I doubt "most". Some, yes, but by no means most.
Muslims/terrorists saw the faces off of many "infidels" they capture.
You appear to be intentionally using terms interchangeably that are not, in fact, interchangeable.

Muslims =/= Terrorists, but some Terrorists = Muslims (or a form of Islam, at least).

If you think/know/believe otherwise, please provide proof, as my current understanding differs with your apparent understanding.
 
Most terrorists are Muslims. Duh. The 911 terrorists were Muslims. Muslims have committed more than 15,800 (!!!) deadly terror attacks around the world SINCE 911. They can fool some of the stupid people but the will NEVER fool me.
Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
The Atheist Conservative: » Most terrorists are Muslims
The Sad Truth Is That All Terrorists Are Muslim - Worldpress.org
FORUM: Most terrorists are Islamic extremists
Prophet of Doom - Islamic Terrorism Timeline - Introduction - Islamic Terrorism Timeline
Islamic Terrorists are indeed the most prominent.

What gave you the idea I disagreed?

You, however, seem to be implying that because some Muslims are or support terrorists, all Muslims are or support terrorists.

That is far different.
 

There are about 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. You have completely failed to prove that most Muslims are terrorists, want to dominate the world, or much of anything else.
 
Never. The reason is simple. It's because the world will face a hailstorm of nukes.
 
Also, as a reply to the Muslim terrorist issue. I think about 50% of all terrorists are Muslim. There are Jewish, KKK, Irish, North Korean, and all kinds of other obscure terrorists.
However, I believe that most Muslims are NOT terrorists. There's a difference between most terrorists being Muslim and most Muslims being terrorists. Most Muslims are peaceful, faithful, people.
 
Although I try to be respectful to most users of this forum, I do feel disgust at chickie's posts condemning Muslims. I met a few Muslims myself, and they are peaceful, faithful people who don't slander people of other religions. Contrary to chickie, I might add.
 
I think most Muslims support terrorism because they are taught to kill us since birth. Their Koran commands them to kill us. I think most of them are (not-so) secretly happy when a terrorist succeeds. That's why we seldom hear them condemning terrorist action. The 911 Muslims were "peaceful, wonderful men" according to their neighbors. So are most of the ones we bust plotting to kill us. Ugh.
http://www.google.com/images?q=musl...&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1259&bih=575
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I think most Muslims support terrorism because they are taught to kill us since birth. Their Koran commands them to kill us. I think most of them are (not-so) secretly happy when a terrorist succeeds. That's why we seldom hear them condemning terrorist action. The 911 Muslims were "peaceful, wonderful men" according to their neighbors. Bleh.

I think most christians support terrorism because god told them too.

See, I can make unproven wild claims too.
 
How many born-again Christian terror attacks have you seen since 911? Zero. How many Muslim terror attacks since 911? More than 15,800. They WANT you to believe they're peaceful, innocent etc. They're not.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Weekly Jihad Report
Aug. 01 - Aug. 07 Jihad Attacks: 32
Dead Bodies: 112
Critically Injured: 212

Monthly Jihad Report
July, 2010 Jihad Attacks: 192
Countries: 23
Dead Bodies: 1060
Critically Injured: 1860

"Religion of peace" my (perfect) ass.
 
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The Chritians are too busy touching little boys.

So are all priests child molesters? No.

Do all Christians kill abortion doctors? No.

See how ridiculous generalzations become.
 
I would say most Catholic priests are homosexuals. Are they ALL molesters? No. Very few born-again Christians are violent. They do not fill mosques, prisons, jihad training camps or any other vile places. There was no generalization, just facts.
 
Those Jesus Camp folk scare the bejesus out of me. And I don't count as terrorist attacks incidents which occur within war zones. IEDs and such in Iraq or Afghanistan aren't "terrorist" attacks in the traditional sense of what terrorism is.
 
How many born-again Christian terror attacks have you seen since 911? Zero. How many Muslim terror attacks since 911? More than 15,800. They WANT you to believe they're peaceful, innocent etc. They're not.
Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
Weekly Jihad Report
Aug. 01 - Aug. 07 Jihad Attacks: 32
Dead Bodies: 112
Critically Injured: 212

Monthly Jihad Report
July, 2010 Jihad Attacks: 192
Countries: 23
Dead Bodies: 1060
Critically Injured: 1860

"Religion of peace" my (perfect) ass.

Over 1.5 billion muslims in the world, you are not showing a most. By the way, remember the IRA? Remember the abortion clinic bombings? Remember the nut sect up here in Michigan that got arrested recently for plotting to kill cops so they could blow up people at their funerals?
 
I believe if the US were to take a pure realist perspective on protecting its hegemony it would always pre-emptively attack any nation that posed, or could pose a real threat to its stature as world hegemon. Of course this would also have to be coupled with fighting a war "hands-free," in which you simply decimate your opponent and not have to be "fired upon" first and the lot that has been generated since the media has began to turn war into television.
 
Those Jesus Camp folk scare the bejesus out of me. And I don't count as terrorist attacks incidents which occur within war zones. IEDs and such in Iraq or Afghanistan aren't "terrorist" attacks in the traditional sense of what terrorism is.

Even not counting war stuff Muslims have still committed more than 15,800 (!!!) DEADLY terror attacks since 911. Case closed.
 
Even not counting war stuff Muslims have still committed more than 15,800 (!!!) DEADLY terror attacks since 911. Case closed.

And yet, Christians have killed more people in this country, and in Europe since 911....
 
Even not counting war stuff Muslims have still committed more than 15,800 (!!!) DEADLY terror attacks since 911. Case closed.
I have to wonder...

Do you actually believe this stuff?

Or is your existance on this forum one giant troll?

Either way, I'm worried.
 
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