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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    When the United States or its interests are threatened to a degree that justifies going to war to remove the threat.
    Throw into this mix, our Allies and their interests, liberties and freedoms and I'm with you %100.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Think about how many more people would have died because their countries succumbed to international Communism. We may have failed in North Korea and Vietnam, but our active opposition tied up Soviet resources and prevented many more countries from falling.
    and it also destroyed a bunch of others, made as enemies with half the middle east, etc. If you really think that Soviet russia could have survived I think you should really look into the fact that, most of what Russia did was a front.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    The Soviet system could never have survived, but it could have taken more nations down with it.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The Soviet system could never have survived, but it could have taken more nations down with it.
    And which of these nations would have been better off? Most of the crappy countries the Russians were going after were already heading down that direction or they suck. Japan was fine, SK was fine, any European country (sans their German territory) and many more nations poorer than theirs were absorbed into Russia and then declared independence again, or just stay part of crappy ole Russia to this day.

    However, I will concede that the arms race, specifically NASA as a byproduct of the Cold War was something fantastic that came out of the Cold War.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Pretty much whenever the opportunity presents itself. At least every couple decades or so, whether we have an excuse or not. War is necessary for the economy and for maintaining the martial spirit of the nation, and is generally good for the species.
    Quite possibly one of the most original thinking posts I've seen at DP in a long time.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Quite possibly one of the most original thinking posts I've seen at DP in a long time.
    Well I understand what he is saying, war promotes the advancement of technology, the rapid amount of wars we have seen the past 100 years directly correlates with us getting out of using the same kinds of tech for the past thousands of years, however it didn't have to be like that, it just did.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Christians attacked us before 9/11 in Oklahoma. I am still disappointed we did not take them out.
    To answer the war, we should go to war when we need to go to war. You can't predict it in advance usually.

    Correction.

    One man, whose sympathies lay with a little-known church called the Branch Davidians, attacked the government building in OK in response to and in revenge for the deaths of many civilians and children in the Waco Massacre, conducted by the fedgov under Clinton and Reno against a religion known as the Branch Davidians.


    Your original statement is terribly lacking in factual accuracy.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Correction.

    One man, whose sympathies lay with a little-known church called the Branch Davidians, attacked the government building in OK in response to and in revenge for the deaths of many civilians and children in the Waco Massacre, conducted by the fedgov under Clinton and Reno against a religion known as the Branch Davidians.


    Your original statement is terribly lacking in factual accuracy.
    See, the beauty is that you got my comment without realizing it. Now extend what you wrote to what I replied to. My comments where made the way they where very much on purpose, and you know I know the reality of Oklahoma.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Having the world's most powerful military doesn't mean anything if your political objectives don't include actually winning the war.
    True. Our current problems revolve around politicians who are too politically afraid to enact a strategy capable of winning the war, yet simultaneously too politically afraid to end it.

    The common thread in those wars is not that they were unwinnable, because they were not, but that our military efforts were undermined by politicians and subversives. The military has been denied the use of effective tactics and sufficient numbers, the treasonous media has reported our "inability to win" and our lack of resolve, and our cowardly civilian populace turned against the war at the first sign of difficulty.
    Such factors must be accounted for in strategy, not whined about after you lose. Political will is a strategic resource just like steel, and should be accounted for in any conflict. Vietnam failed because NVA made the cost of winning too high. The only way to win was to stay in Vietnam indefinitely. That losses sustained during such an operation would outweigh any benefit of keeping the South separate.


    No nation can win a war under these circumstances. If we had fought this way in any of the wars before the second half of the 20th century, we would have been relegated to the scrap heap of history.
    Not true at all. Our ability to win at maneuver warfare is the best it as has ever been. Comparing the two wars in Iraq, it is pretty clear that fighting a pitched field battle is trivial compared to a drawn out counter insurgency. Our political strategy should recognize that fact and favor conflicts that are easily decided in decisive battles.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Correction.

    One man, whose sympathies lay with a little-known church called the Branch Davidians, attacked the government building in OK in response to and in revenge for the deaths of many civilians and children in the Waco Massacre, conducted by the fedgov under Clinton and Reno against a religion known as the Branch Davidians.


    Your original statement is terribly lacking in factual accuracy.
    Yeah but you just basically proved the point without knowing it. Take out christian put in muslim, put in some other terrorist organization and BAM! You got your receipe for some terrorism. BAM! Kick it up a notch!
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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