View Poll Results: When should the United States of America go to war?

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    6 5.41%
  • Frequently.

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  • Often

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  • Only when moderately necessary.

    4 3.60%
  • Sometimes.

    2 1.80%
  • When necessary.

    33 29.73%
  • Only when extremely necessary.

    30 27.03%
  • Rarely.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    But, look to Germany and Japan........
    War is the worst possible thing for a nations economy.
    Germany and Japan are the best possible examples of my point. Germany was an economic wasteland in the 1930s. Japan was irrelevant. World War II turned them into superpowers until they both bit off more than they could chew. If America and the Soviets hadn't gotten involved in the war, Germany and Japan would have remained superpowers. Not to mention, winning the war turned the United States and the USSR into superpowers and the Cold War allowed the Soviets to prop up their economy far longer than their policies should have allowed.

    War is wonderful for the economy, especially if you can keep all the fighting in the other guy's country.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As in, when an "opportunity" presents itself (however slight and flimsy, or great and imperative), what reasons/incidents do you consider necessary to justify the USA going to war, or even a "conflict/whatever".

    Please choose your generalized poll option and post with your reasons for doing so.

    None of the poll options really suit my views all that well.

    At present, we are acting as the world's superpower and policeman. We go to war when we decide some nation is a threat to the Pax Americana, the American-imposed world Peace, not necessarily a threat to us directly.

    If you think that's a good thing, then it is in our intrests to attack nations that building up to attacking their neighbors before they are actually ready to do so. Case in point, Iraq and Iran. My own opinion on that is, well maybe... sometimes.

    Otherhandwise, we should go to war when our intrests are threatened and war is the best option for securing our intrests, if you are a pragmatist. I tend to lean this way. Afganistan, Korea, WW2...

    Then there's the thought that we should only go to war as a last resort, if someone is threatening us directly with real and imminent harm or invasion. The last really serious threat was Cold War USSR; before that maybe 1812 or the Mex-American war for any kind of "invasion". I think that when we take this position, we run the risk of letting a new "Hitler" grow too powerul before moving to deal with him.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Looking back a few decades, I would have supported America going to war much earlier in ww2 than we did. Had we done so, the price paid in human lives would have been FEWER dead rather than more, and so it really isn't a case of being directly threatened so much as it is gauging whether or not war is inevitable and then reacting in such a way as to face down the threat.

    It's not really so much that we, as a nation, should only respond to a direct attack so much as it is our need to ensure that our way of life is preserved. That means coming to the aid of those who share it when THEY are attacked as well.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    The United States should go to war when the benefits gained are worth the cost in terms of lives and money. It is disturbing to me that nobody who has answered the thread has made any mention of actually of the viability of winning the war or of the price you have to pay to win. Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam have proved that having the worlds most powerful military doesn't mean anything if your political objectives can't be accomplished with force alone. We have strengths and weaknesses just like anyone else. We need to base our war planning around those concepts.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    I went with "Only when extremely necessary, however, "Only when there are no other viable options" would have been much more accurate.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam have proved that having the worlds most powerful military doesn't mean anything if your political objectives can't be accomplished with force alone.
    Having the world's most powerful military doesn't mean anything if your political objectives don't include actually winning the war. The common thread in those wars is not that they were unwinnable, because they were not, but that our military efforts were undermined by politicians and subversives. The military has been denied the use of effective tactics and sufficient numbers, the treasonous media has reported our "inability to win" and our lack of resolve, and our cowardly civilian populace turned against the war at the first sign of difficulty.

    No nation can win a war under these circumstances. If we had fought this way in any of the wars before the second half of the 20th century, we would have been relegated to the scrap heap of history.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    I disagree. There was no trickery. Muslims attacked us 911. That started it. W decided to fight back. He went after the world's worst terrorist, Saddam Hussein, took him out and won the war. Mission accomplished. The war on terror is ongoing. As long as we have people whose version of their Bible tells them to kill us, we will always have violence and war.
    Christians attacked us before 9/11 in Oklahoma. I am still disappointed we did not take them out.

    To answer the war, we should go to war when we need to go to war. You can't predict it in advance usually.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As in, when an "opportunity" presents itself (however slight and flimsy, or great and imperative), what reasons/incidents do you consider necessary to justify the USA going to war, or even a "conflict/whatever".

    Please choose your generalized poll option and post with your reasons for doing so.
    When we are or one of our allies are attacked.

    Iraq was NOT a threat to anyone, in fact Colon Powell said so in Feb 2001 and Condi Rice said so in July.



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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    I'm a believer in the pre-WWII way of going about war, which is to say don't do it until they start attacking us on U.S. soil first. Think about how much money and lives could have been saved if we kept to that policy the past 65+ years?
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Think about how much money and lives could have been saved if we kept to that policy the past 65+ years?
    Think about how many more people would have died because their countries succumbed to international Communism. We may have failed in North Korea and Vietnam, but our active opposition tied up Soviet resources and prevented many more countries from falling.

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