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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    No, they have not.
    British empire Mrs right winger.

    Not like Muslims attack/kill all over the world on a DAILY basis. Islam is a vile religion of death and violence.
    Is it? Prove non-extremist Muslims are vile. Prove it is violent by nature.

    If it was eradicated we would have no wars
    Really? Was it Afghanistan or America that declared war? Was it the US or Iraq?

    I support pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan. They have proven they don't appreciate what we did for them. Let them kill each other. I don't care.
    This i do not agree with. Pulling out of Iraq/Afghanistan will only put us back there 10 years down the line. Instating a degree of stability will do us a lot of good, as well as them. Remember, we are not doing it for them anyway, we are doing it for us, as members of NATO and the "Western alliance" so to speak, for our security. Now i haven't interviewed every Iraqi/Afghan to say if they appreciate it or not, but if they don't i dont blame them - it's worse now than it was under Saddam.

    Unfortunately we cannot afford to instate a tribalized/fascist government because it would undermine our own Democracy, even though tribal rule and dictatorship would whip those countries into there place.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    British empire Mrs right winger. Is it? Prove non-extremist Muslims are vile. Prove it is violent by nature.Really? Was it Afghanistan or America that declared war? Was it the US or Iraq?This i do not agree with. Pulling out of Iraq/Afghanistan will only put us back there 10 years down the line. Instating a degree of stability will do us a lot of good, as well as them. Remember, we are not doing it for them anyway, we are doing it for us, as members of NATO and the "Western alliance" so to speak, for our security. Now i haven't interviewed every Iraqi/Afghan to say if they appreciate it or not, but if they don't i dont blame them - it's worse now than it was under Saddam.Unfortunately we cannot afford to instate a tribalized/fascist government because it would undermine our own Democracy, even though tribal rule and dictatorship would whip those countries into there place.
    I'm talking about now. EVERY DAY we read reports about Muslims killing all over the world. The Koran COMMANDS Muslims to kill infidels. They are brainwashed with that bs from birth. Islam is violent. Muslims attacked us 911 because they are on a world-domination mission. They want EVERY country to be Islamic. They want Sharia law imposed everywhere. I am not just a "right winger". I am a big counterterrorism supporter. The stuff I see/read is sickening. I want us OUT of Iraq and Af and into Iran. I want Iminajihad's nuke facilities blown to smithereens so he can't destroy Israel and the USA like he wants. Iraq is NOT worse than under Saddam Hussein. There is democracy, voting and some decent life. Under Hussein it was rape rooms, torture chambers, and him killing 1.5 MILLION of his own people. He was the world's worst terrorist. I ADORE W for taking him out. But I am an isolationist now. We have done more than enough for the rest of the world. It's time to fix OUR problems.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    I'm talking about now. EVERY DAY we read reports about Muslims killing all over the world. The Koran COMMANDS Muslims to kill infidels. They are brainwashed with that bs from birth. Islam is violent. Muslims attacked us 911 because they are on a world-domination mission. They want EVERY country to be Islamic. They want Sharia law imposed everywhere.
    Well you know the old saying, wish in one hand **** in the other; see which one fills up first. They can want Sharia law everywhere, but I guess they're just SOL because it will never come to America. Our laws and Constitution are set already and some terrorists can't change it.

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    I am not just a "right winger". I am a big counterterrorism supporter. The stuff I see/read is sickening. I want us OUT of Iraq and Af and into Iran.
    More war? I think it's enough. Besides, Iran is actually the place best suited for supporting a Western style democracy given its population and education level. It's theocracy because the clerics hold control; but they have the best chance if the clerics are removed. They also have already rioted and shown penchant for wanting to stand up against their government. If we go in there and kill them all; kiss that good bye.

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    I want Iminajihad's nuke facilities blown to smithereens so he can't destroy Israel and the USA like he wants.
    They don't have a delivery mechanism to hit the US. And what about Europe; they're at fault for all this too.

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    Iraq is NOT worse than under Saddam Hussein. There is democracy, voting and some decent life. Under Hussein it was rape rooms, torture chambers, and him killing 1.5 MILLION of his own people.
    I guess we shouldn't have put the Ba'athist party in power.

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    He was the world's worst terrorist.
    Only if by that you mean that he was ineffective and didn't launch terrorist attacks against anyone.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well you know the old saying, wish in one hand **** in the other; see which one fills up first. They can want Sharia law everywhere, but I guess they're just SOL because it will never come to America. Our laws and Constitution are set already and some terrorists can't change it.
    More war? I think it's enough. Besides, Iran is actually the place best suited for supporting a Western style democracy given its population and education level. It's theocracy because the clerics hold control; but they have the best chance if the clerics are removed. They also have already rioted and shown penchant for wanting to stand up against their government. If we go in there and kill them all; kiss that good bye.
    They don't have a delivery mechanism to hit the US. And what about Europe; they're at fault for all this too.
    I guess we shouldn't have put the Ba'athist party in power.
    Only if by that you mean that he was ineffective and didn't launch terrorist attacks against anyone.
    They DO want Sharia law everywhere. Look where they dominate--especially in MI. They would set up Sharia here today if they could.
    Not more war: different war. No more Iraq and Af. On to Iran. Not to kill anyone. Just to take out the lunatic's nuke facilities.
    I meant it as he tortured/killed 1.5 million innocent people.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    I'm talking about now. EVERY DAY we read reports about Muslims killing all over the world.
    Muslims or brown people? Ok, lets play this game.
    How many white people commit crime everyday? How does that reflect on Christianity?


    The Koran COMMANDS Muslims to kill infidels. They are brainwashed with that bs from birth. Islam is violent.
    Is that in the Qua-ran? First i heard of it. Misinformation. Your own ignorance has created your hatred. It's funny actually because it preaches the complete opposite; tolerance.

    Muslims attacked us 911 because they are on a world-domination mission. They want EVERY country to be Islamic. They want Sharia law imposed everywhere. I am not just a "right winger". I am a big counterterrorism supporter.
    Your misinformed, that's what you are. 9/11 was commited by terrorists. What gave you the impression Muslims advocated that? Last i checked moderate Muslim clerics denounced it on behalf of there followers.


    The stuff I see/read is sickening. I want us OUT of Iraq and Af and into Iran. I want Iminajihad's nuke facilities blown to smithereens so he can't destroy Israel and the USA like he wants. Iraq is NOT worse than under Saddam Hussein. There is democracy, voting and some decent life.
    It is. They may be able to vote, but they will never be free from the terrorism they are subject to on a daily basis. Saddam had an iron grip. Now, we have a country without a government because of political disputes that is preventing it from forming a coalition. I dont support Saddam, im a supporter of Western Democratic values; any other system is just.....wrong. But not all places are compatible with it, Iraq being one of them.

    Under Hussein it was rape rooms, torture chambers, and him killing 1.5 MILLION of his own people. He was the world's worst terrorist. I ADORE W for taking him out. But I am an isolationist now. We have done more than enough for the rest of the world. It's time to fix OUR problems.
    Sure, now the terrorists are doing that for him. At least then there was some form of stability. Terrorist attacks where low, and so was crime. But because America jumping the gun with very little credible intel, we now have a country which might ACTUALLY obtain nuclear weapons but we cant do zilch about it; we simply have no money or morale. And so Iran is left laughing.

    Let Israel sort it out. Seriously, you call yourself an isolationist?
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Muslims or brown people? Ok, lets play this game.
    How many white people commit crime everyday? How does that reflect on Christianity?
    Is that in the Qua-ran? First i heard of it. Misinformation. Your own ignorance has created your hatred. It's funny actually because it preaches the complete opposite; tolerance.
    Your misinformed, that's what you are. 9/11 was commited by terrorists. What gave you the impression Muslims advocated that? Last i checked moderate Muslim clerics denounced it on behalf of there followers.
    It is. They may be able to vote, but they will never be free from the terrorism they are subject to on a daily basis. Saddam had an iron grip. Now, we have a country without a government because of political disputes that is preventing it from forming a coalition. I dont support Saddam, im a supporter of Western Democratic values; any other system is just.....wrong. But not all places are compatible with it, Iraq being one of them.
    Sure, now the terrorists are doing that for him. At least then there was some form of stability. Terrorist attacks where low, and so was crime. But because America jumping the gun with very little credible intel, we now have a country which might ACTUALLY obtain nuclear weapons but we cant do zilch about it; we simply have no money or morale. And so Iran is left laughing.
    Let Israel sort it out. Seriously, you call yourself an isolationist?
    This is not about race. Islam is not a race. It is a vile religion of death and destruction. And body parts.
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    Muslim terrorists commited 911 and more than 15,500 deadly terror attacks SINCE then.
    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
    Stability? You call rape rooms, torture and death "stability"? Saddam Hussein was a monster. I'm glad he's in Hell.
    Israel is sorting it out. She is crucified every time she tries to defend herself from these filthy pukes. She will win. It's prophesied. Israel is God's and Jews are God's chosen people. They will ALWAYS have victory!
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmh423 View Post
    You are a very wise chickie!!

    That's the least we can do for Israel!! After all they have fought shoulder to shoulder with the US in every military conflict since their inception in '48. Google "Israeli Heros Of the Korean, Viet Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan Wars.... They are our greatest ally. GWs wars were a blessing to us all. Let's hope that Obama does as he is told and keeps them going forever. Both Israel and the US are dependent on war since they are two of the worlds leading manufacturers of war implements. We should never allow any competition in this area. Remember, every time a cruise missle is fired into a nation of muslim extremists, or some ordinance fired into a toyota truck full of Palistinians MONEY is being made by someone here at home and also in our beloved friends land of Israel. That is good bussiness.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    This is not about race. Islam is not a race. It is a vile religion of death and destruction. And body parts.
    TheReligionofPeace - Total Terror in the Name of Allah
    Muslim terrorists commited 911 and more than 15,500 deadly terror attacks SINCE then.
    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
    I asked for evidence from the Qua-ran, not propagandist sites.

    Stability? You call rape rooms, torture and death "stability"? Saddam Hussein was a monster. I'm glad he's in Hell.
    So am i. But it was still a stable society nonetheless. A volatile society would be one run by a weak central power, where the rule of law is rarely if ever, kept. That was not the case with Iraq. Your an "isolationist" apparently. First one i ever met that cared what was happening outside of her/his own borders.

    Israel is sorting it out. She is crucified every time she tries to defend herself from these filthy pukes. She will win. It's prophesied. Israel is God's and Jews are God's chosen people. They will ALWAYS have victory!
    So not only do you have a hatred for Islam but you yourself are a Christian radicalist. Or Jewish?
    How are you any better than "those muslims". You hate as they do. You ask for there destruction as they do others.
    How are you any less vile or disgusting then them? That's the point, your not any less disgusting or vile than they are.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    They DO want Sharia law everywhere. Look where they dominate--especially in MI. They would set up Sharia here today if they could.
    And again, it doesn't matter. They can't force it here.

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    Not more war: different war.
    Wouldn't different war still be war? So wouldn't "more war" be accurate?

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    No more Iraq and Af. On to Iran. Not to kill anyone. Just to take out the lunatic's nuke facilities.
    How are you doing that without killing anyone? Or causing a huge international crisis which will result in retaliation? Which would result in the outbreak of formal hostilities, which would result in massive death?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    This is not about race. Islam is not a race. It is a vile religion of death and destruction. And body parts.
    TheReligionofPeace - Total Terror in the Name of Allah
    Muslim terrorists committed 911 and more than 15,500 deadly terror attacks SINCE then.
    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
    Stability? You call rape rooms, torture and death "stability"? Saddam Hussein was a monster. I'm glad he's in Hell.
    Israel is sorting it out. She is crucified every time she tries to defend herself from these filthy pukes. She will win. It's prophesied. Israel is God's and Jews are God's chosen people. They will ALWAYS have victory!
    Much like Christianity, Islam is not one monolithic whole, but a collection of sects that often disagree on what, precisely, the Koran tells them to do/not do.
    Last edited by The Mark; 08-09-10 at 05:36 PM.
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