View Poll Results: When should the United States of America go to war?

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    What about resources necessary to U.S. needs but available only in foreign lands, such as oil in the Middle East?
    find another source, declaring war for something like that is akin to a petulant child deprived of its toy that has a tantrum.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Well, OK...
    December 1941...
    At what specific point are you OK with going to war with Japan?
    with Japan? the attack on Pearl Harbour, however, war with Germany should have been declared the moment they broke their non-agression pact with Russia, as it proved they were a direct threat to anyone.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    find another source, declaring war for something like that is akin to a petulant child deprived of its toy that has a tantrum.
    Exactly. You're essentially stealing at that point. Someone doesn't want to sell you X for the price you want, so you say it's ok to go in there; kill a bunch of people, and take X because we need it. I don't know how many people who endorse war so much would be against that action if X was from a store or company or something like that. People I think try to forget how bad war really is, they try to avoid its face as much as possible. But you have to understand what you're saying here and what you're calling for. People will die. And if you think it's ok to kill people cause they won't sell us something or we think the price is unfair; man...I don't know, I think that's pretty messed up.

    It's like saying we don't have the right to sell our goods. And if we won't sell something to another country, they are justified in attacking. Now because of our military that doesn't happen; but the principle is the same. Would y'all like to have your family bombed because we didn't sell some bit of technology to another country?
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    with Japan? the attack on Pearl Harbour,
    I asked 'at what point'?
    Say we found the fleet an hour before launch. Then?
    During launch?
    When the strike crossed into our territorial waters?
    Crossed over land?
    Or not until the first actual shot was fired?

    I'm not trying to be a pain, I just want to know what you consider an 'attack'.

    however, war with Germany should have been declared the moment they broke their non-agression pact with Russia, as it proved they were a direct threat to anyone.
    As if the three previous years did not illustrate that clearly enough.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I asked 'at what point'?
    Say we found the fleet an hour before launch. Then?
    During launch?
    When the strike crossed into our territorial waters?
    Crossed over land?
    Or not until the first actual shot was fired?

    I'm not trying to be a pain, I just want to know what you consider an 'attack'.
    sorry, i misunderstood, i'd say as soon as they crossed into territorial waters, or when it became apparent they were attacking, whichever occurred first.


    As if the three previous years did not illustrate that clearly enough.
    obviously not clear enough, or the war would have started sooner.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    sorry, i misunderstood, i'd say as soon as they crossed into territorial waters, or when it became apparent they were attacking, whichever occurred first.
    So, once the attack had commenced, but before the first damage had been caused. Fair description?

    obviously not clear enough, or the war would have started sooner.
    The war started in September 1939.
    The Germans broke the non-aggression pact w/ the Russians in June 41.

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So, once the attack had commenced, but before the first damage had been caused. Fair description?
    yeah, pretty much

    The war started in September 1939.
    The Germans broke the non-aggression pact w/ the Russians in June 41.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Those all sound good. The most important factor I consider in whether or not we should go to war is whether or not we can win.
    And whether or not the nation in question threatens our sovereign.


    I do not hold these views because I am a Fascist. I am a Fascist because I hold these views. If I am expected to do anything, it's to embrace liberal democratic values, work for a faceless corporation all my life, and die quietly and alone in a nursing facility out of sheer boredom. I am expected to do nothing and be a nobody while others rule the world and sap us of our life and strength to line their pockets.
    That is the cycle of the world. If you have accepted unprovoked war as such, why not this? Fortunately, everybody has the chance to make something of themselves, that includes you, but by advocating war you advocate the removal of these rights for many many people.


    Do you think that human nature has changed in the last century? There's only one great empire left in the world, and it carries itself exactly as has every other empire in human history. We may now be witnessing its final days, but there are other nations preparing to rise up and take its place. The cycle of human history continues unperturbed.
    Our attitudes have changed and the way we conduct our politics to survive has changed. The world is now a small place, it is not big like it once was. We rely on science and knowledge for our survival, not petty wars and raids.
    The geopolitical dynamics of our world may shift but it doesn't mean China, for example, will invade the US.

    For a mere sixty years and with tremendous amounts of American support. And for how long has Japan's economy and population been stagnating? They're facing a demographic crisis because of their aging population.
    That's the first world for you, im afraid.
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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    yeah, pretty much
    Fair enough.
    But, that's for a conventional war, where damage caused in a single attack is limited.
    What about an attack involving WMDs, individual weapons that can kill millions in an instant?

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    Re: When should the United States of America go to war?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Yes they have. You should do your research....So this is a war on Islam, is it?
    No, they have not. Not like Muslims attack/kill all over the world on a DAILY basis. Islam is a vile religion of death and violence. If it was eradicated we would have no wars. I support pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan. They have proven they don't appreciate what we did for them. Let them kill each other. I don't care.

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