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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    Parent is there.
    Safety precautions are used.
    Proper instruction is being given.
    No one's being shot at.

    Stellar gun-safety and education being provided.

    I do have a problem with children hunting, though.
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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    It's not responsible nor irresponsible... it just is. If a parent wants to teach their kid how to properly use weapons, that is their business.

    I personally would have loved it if my dad taught me how to use weapons when I was younger.

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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    I voted 'other'. There's nothing wrong with teaching kids how to properly and safely handle firearms if they're mature enough to take it seriously. Whether that particular kid was mature enough, it's hard to judge from those short videos. I'm also not experienced enough with guns to say whether he was being given proper instructions.
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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    I wouldn't say it's irresponsible, but to me guns will never ever be a good thing. Ever. Unless you're a hunter, a soldier or a police officer, there is absolutely no reason for you to own a gun and I'm 100% supportive of the strict rules regarding gun ownership in Sweden (where I'm from).

    If I knew that my neighbors had guns in their house (even for protection) I'd flee the neighborhood because I wouldn't be able to sleep safely at night knowing that there was such a dangerous weapon within close proximity of my house.

    I realize it's a different culture and mindset over there. But it still doesn't change that you have the highest gun violence rates (among developed countries) in the world. If you say that it's not the gun that kills people but people, then does that mean Americans are a more violent people? If so, then all the more reason to NOT have such lax view on gun ownership! It's like giving a match box to an arsonist. But if Americans are not more prone to violence than other developed countries, then it must go back to the gun being the source of the problem.

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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhovanion View Post
    I wouldn't say it's irresponsible, but to me guns will never ever be a good thing. Ever. Unless you're a hunter, a soldier or a police officer, there is absolutely no reason for you to own a gun and I'm 100% supportive of the strict rules regarding gun ownership in Sweden (where I'm from).

    If I knew that my neighbors had guns in their house (even for protection) I'd flee the neighborhood because I wouldn't be able to sleep safely at night knowing that there was such a dangerous weapon within close proximity of my house.

    I realize it's a different culture and mindset over there. But it still doesn't change that you have the highest gun violence rates (among developed countries) in the world. If you say that it's not the gun that kills people but people, then does that mean Americans are a more violent people? If so, then all the more reason to NOT have such lax view on gun ownership! It's like giving a match box to an arsonist. But if Americans are not more prone to violence than other developed countries, then it must go back to the gun being the source of the problem.
    Wow....just...wow...

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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wow....just...wow...
    I'm just not used to people owning guns. I've never seen a gun in real life and I hope I'll never have to. Not even the police force carry firearms on a regular basis in Sweden.

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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhovanion View Post
    I wouldn't say it's irresponsible, but to me guns will never ever be a good thing. Ever. Unless you're a hunter, a soldier or a police officer, there is absolutely no reason for you to own a gun and I'm 100% supportive of the strict rules regarding gun ownership in Sweden (where I'm from).
    I'm interested to know why you feel that law-abiding citizens aren't entitled to use maximum force available to protect themselves, their families or property?
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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhovanion View Post
    I'm just not used to people owning guns. I've never seen a gun in real life and I hope I'll never have to. Not even the police force carry firearms on a regular basis in Sweden.
    This is probably not nice since you apparently frighten easily, but a quick search of your crime picture shows that while you still got nothing on us in the gun violence arena, your criminals still got them guns...and drugs...and apparently violent crime is rising...you got some problems with some neo-nazis and muslim youth brewing...so...Im not suggesting you should move...but you might want to start stockpiling boxes...

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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    Yes just because I would wait until he is a little older, like driving age.
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    Re: Is this irresponsible parenting?

    This is not irresponsible parenting.

    You can tell from the comments that the adults present have given the kids training with regard to the safe and accurate use of the weapons.

    The kids are aiming at clearly marked targets on what is obviously a gun range.

    They are using appropriate ear protection and support mechanisms for the recoil.

    The adult not holding the camera doesn't hesitate to step in to help, but also steps out of the way when the kid's ready to shoot.

    In short, they're doing everything right when it comes to training a child to safely and accurately handle a firearm.

    As to whether or not that sort of training is appropriate to begin with is a judgement call for which there is no right answer.

    I happen to think there's nothing wrong with this, but I can see other people having objections. I don't mind those objections, so long as the objectors only try to apply their decision to their own kids.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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