View Poll Results: Should the 14th Amendment be changed or repealed

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  • No, the 14th amendment should not be touched

    34 55.74%
  • Yes, it should be changed to only give citizenship if the mother is legally in the U.S.

    4 6.56%
  • Yes, it should be changed to only give citizenship if one parent is a U.S. citizen

    15 24.59%
  • Yes, it should be completely repealed

    3 4.92%
  • Other, please explain in the thread

    5 8.20%
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Thread: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I can't believe you're going from libertarian to liberal. I just can't believe it.
    Hmmm this is odd,...

    I've been thinking about changing some of my views too.


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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Leave it alone. What we need to do is change that 13th amendment I got to get **** done.
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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Leave it alone. What we need to do is change that 13th amendment I got to get **** done.
    Yeah, let's delete the last 10 or 15 amendments and start over.
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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No I can't trust Congress to just fix that amendment.
    Since there is no limitation on what they could add or take away from The Constitution.
    This statement puzzles me since the congress is what made all of the amendments in the first place. (states too ofc)

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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This statement puzzles me since the congress is what made all of the amendments in the first place. (states too ofc)
    To me, at that time, there were enough idealists to keep the morally corrupt caged.
    Now, there isn't a chance in hell, that I would trust any current congress to amend it.
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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    To me, at that time, there were enough idealists to keep the morally corrupt caged.
    Now, there isn't a chance in hell, that I would trust any current congress to amend it.
    Ok, that makes more sense and you are probably right.

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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    amended how?
    as it stands, those who were born on American soil are American citizens with the only exception being those who are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. that would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example; the child of an enemy soldier would be another (and more far fetched)

    that definition of citizenship at section one of the 14th amendment appears to be clear cut. what would be a better way to define who does (and/or does not) enjoy American citizenship?
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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that definition of citizenship at section one of the 14th amendment appears to be clear cut. what would be a better way to define who does (and/or does not) enjoy American citizenship?
    Simple enough. Children born with one parent who is a US citizen are automatically US citizens. Otherwise, they must undergo the naturalization process.

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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    My wife was not a citizen when my two children where born. I was born in the USA myself and have always been a citizen. My wife was a legal immigrant and I believe that it was right that my children be citizens of the USA. My wife has been a naturalized citizen now for 18 years. I believe that the 14th amendment to the constitution should be changed when it comes to illegal immigrants not legal immigrants. There is a huge difference. Children of illegal immigrants born in the US should not be born citizens. They should be deported along with there parents regardles of there age when they are discovered in our country.
    Last edited by SgtRock; 08-05-10 at 12:22 AM.
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    Re: Should the 14th amendment be amended or repealed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I have no problem with amending the amendment, or if that's not possible (which I think it isn't) essentially removing it and passing a more updated version of it.
    Wow! I thought conservatives were strict constitutionalists. It seems that many believe that the constitution, as written, is almost divinely inspired, if not written by God himself. It seems every time we have a new nominee to the SCOTUS, we have to deal with whether the nominee is a strict Constitutionalist or an activist. We consistently hear about the damn liberals that advocate a contemporary review/interpretation of our founder's intent as blasphemous as re-writting the Bible (bad example, some conservative goof is already on this Conservative Bible Project - Conservapedia). Anyway, the strict constitutionalists generally believe the Constitution is beyond reproach*.

    * - apparently except where the Constitution is inconvenient or otherwise inconsistent with their political beliefs.


    BTW - nothing is a bigger waste of time, expense and energy than amending the Constitution (even talking about it is silly). We couldn't get the ERA done in the 70's in a much more co-operative political environment. If you don't like the Constitution says, I suggest you just deal with it.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 08-05-10 at 12:30 AM.

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