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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Will the right ever get tired of griping about Carter? Bad presidents are bad presidents.
    I don't know, I don't gripe about Carter...

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Lets have some intellectual honesty here. It is a fact that Bush left the presidency with the US engaged in two wars (one arguably was completely elective), a very serious economic crisis (arguably the worst since the great depression) and one of our largest manufacturing industries (which arguably is defense mission critical) teetering on bankruptcy. One can argue the severity of the mess Bush left, how long it should take to fix it and the right course to fix it. But it is hardly idiotic to argue that Obama inherited mess. It is idiotic to say he did not.
    Every President inherits problems, it is how they deal with them that shows their true leadership capability... so far (in my opinion) Obama has shown to be a poor leader. Not to say everything is his fault, but he is the President, he is in charge, and ultimately that is just the way it is.
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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    About as effective as the "Just continually blame it on Bush and act like nothing that has occured in the past year and a half has any effect or any baring on anything at all except when its positive" strategy.
    Oh I completely agree. I think we need to place blame and credit where it is due. My concern is that we should not be rewriting history.

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    In various threads, whenever the mistakes of Bush are brought up, some people always seem to want to bury the past and act like it never happened so they can blame everything on Obama instead.

    So, in your opinion, how effective is this strategy?
    can you point to examples of this phenomenon you describe? I for one have never ignored the problems of the past; only pointed out how PATHETIC it is for people to blame others when you applied for the job of FIXING things. How even MORE pathetic when you have made it WORSE and STILL blame others.

    Hell...we have morons that want to go all the way back and blame this on Reagan (curiously, those dumbasses never extend that to Carter...probably because they are simple minded idealogues). Seriously...Reagan. Apparently even though the racist Bill Clinton managed to fix everything, somehow under Obama its all back to being screwed up and they bring up a dead president who was elected 30 years ago. Can you even ****ing IMAGINE that...

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Will the right ever get tired of griping about Carter? Bad presidents are bad presidents.
    Riiight. which is why it is ONLY appropriate to address THIS president and his current failings...on the INCREASES in unemployment, the continued stagnant economy, the increase in budget and deficit spending, the total failure of leadership in the gulf and in Afghnaistan, etc. Dude is well into his second year. Blaming Bush and crying racism anytime someone disagrees with him is a pathetic and impotent tactic.

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    can you point to examples of this phenomenon you describe? I for one have never ignored the problems of the past; only pointed out how PATHETIC it is for people to blame others when you applied for the job of FIXING things. How even MORE pathetic when you have made it WORSE and STILL blame others.

    Hell...we have morons that want to go all the way back and blame this on Reagan (curiously, those dumbasses never extend that to Carter...probably because they are simple minded idealogues). Seriously...Reagan. Apparently even though the racist Bill Clinton managed to fix everything, somehow under Obama its all back to being screwed up and they bring up a dead president who was elected 30 years ago. Can you even ****ing IMAGINE that...
    When I started the thread I thought about citing them but decided not to. My theory is that if I cite specific examples than the thread would end up debating those examples instead of the topic. It was an attempt to keep the thread on track. I could dig some up and PM them to you if you wish I guess.

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Well mega, until you cite examples, the only example this thread is of, is a strawman.
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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Well mega, until you cite examples, the only example this thread is of, is a strawman.
    Want me to pm you some?

    I will if you agree not to post them on this thread or we can start a new thread talking about them perhaps.

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    When I started the thread I thought about citing them but decided not to. My theory is that if I cite specific examples than the thread would end up debating those examples instead of the topic. It was an attempt to keep the thread on track. I could dig some up and PM them to you if you wish I guess.
    I just wonder if you include those that accept Bush's failings (even have cited them as the reason for leaving the party in my case) but still am not willing to give the next 7 democrat presidents a free pass because George Bush did not maintain a healthy fiscal policy.

    HONEST commentary would include the fact that although George Bush did indeed authorize all of that spending, the democrats have had control of the house AND senate since 2006. And honest commentary would ALSO point to who actually WRITES that legislation and submits those budgets. So yeah...at SOME point the pathetic practice of blaming Bush HAS to stop.

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    Re: How convincing is the ignore Bush strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Want me to pm you some?

    I will if you agree not to post them on this thread or we can start a new thread talking about them perhaps.


    I don't think that would foward this conversation. I think if you want to make this claim, you also need to identify those who think Obama can do no wrong and that ALL his current issues are Bush's fault....
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