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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Any authority over a society that can make rules that the society has to live by would be the government.
    Right, but one of the distinguishing characteristics of foraging societies is that no one makes rules that everyone has to abide by. Anthropologists say these people can "vote with their feet."

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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The part I bolded is pure spin and not reality, except maybe some envy. The reason the top 10 % pay more in taxes as a percentage is because that larger percentage effects their standard of living less. It 's not a lack of caring, or envy, or saying they should pay more, it's that they are less harmed by paying more.
    One only has to look to this site and read some of the threads about the estate tax, as an example. Or about big business tax cuts. Or executive salaries/bonuses. The posts on those kinds of threads often reflect a distain for people who are wealthy.

    I like your last sentence, though. Maybe people need to be a bit more articulate -- like you in that sentence.
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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post

    You can run off into the woods and live today if you wanted to.
    No I can't. I'd have to buy the land and pay yearly taxes on it.

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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    Right, but one of the distinguishing characteristics of foraging societies is that no one makes rule that everyone has to abide by. Anthropologists say "people can vote with their feet."
    Perhaps in some situations if the tribes are friendly to each other. But heck, we can emigrate today to friendly countries as well.
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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No I can't. I'd have to buy the land and pay yearly taxes on it.
    It depends on where you go. There are plenty of places where that would not happen, such as south america, india, or asia.

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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    One only has to look to this site and read some of the threads about the estate tax, as an example. Or about big business tax cuts. Or executive salaries/bonuses. The posts on those kinds of threads often reflect a distain for people who are wealthy.

    I like your last sentence, though. Maybe people need to be a bit more articulate -- like you in that sentence.
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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Perhaps in some situations. In others angst between tribes were common and being caught by the other tribe would have resulted in injury or death.
    What does this have to do with anything? I think I'm missing your point here...

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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are seeing what you want to see.
    So are you.
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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    What does this have to do with anything? I think I'm missing your point here...
    Sorry, I made a revision to it. Its basically the same thought but stated differently. Look again.

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    Re: Individualism or Collectivism?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Perhaps in some situations if the tribes are friendly to each other. But heck, we can emigrate today to friendly countries as well.
    Oh. I was speaking of within a single band. Most of these societies didn't have a lot of interaction with other bands, and where they did it was usually peaceful--they exchanged wives, held potlatches, etc.

    Today it's different. Governments are already established worldwide.

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