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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Sure make fun of those who have lost their jobs to illegals. Hopefully you didn't pick a useless degree or one that the labor market is overflowing with


    I know since Oklahoma enacted its HB 1804 no one has had to worry about illegals taking their jobs.




    There is also construction, landscaping,janitorial, factory work, cook and various other jobs.
    where I live used to be farmland-now its your basic one or half acre subdivisions in the 225-850K range depending on the whim of the builders. My wife used to run a sport specific retail shop and next to us was a convenience store and every morning the mexican framers, bricklayers and roofers would be in there buying a few slices of pizza etc for lunch. Were they legal or no> no idea but one of the guys who ran the shop with my wife ran a small roofing business as well as contracting for one of the bigger roofing and Home improvement companies and he said illegals were all over the SW ohio roofing trade



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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I know since Oklahoma enacted its HB 1804 no one has had to worry about illegals taking their jobs.
    I hate to disappoint you, James, but that law was suspended by court challenges. Search "Oklahoma Taxpayer And Citizen Protection Act" at this link: snopes.com: Update from Oklahoma
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Since the only "job" I've actually had or applied for was the Navy, it's pretty hard to lose the job to an illegal immigrant.

    That being said, I do know of at least one specific job where an illegal immigrant was using a stolen identity for the job. He was a little stupid about though. The guy whose identity he stole was working as a security guard for the assisted living center where the illegal immigrant was working in the kitchen. It didn't take too long for some of the center's staff to actually ask questions, which turned up the illegal immigrant. The security guard had no idea until he was informed by his employer (the center contracted guards through another company). I know this story because my husband was a security guard there too, and the guy whose identity was stolen was his buddy. This happened in the last year.
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

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    Nope. But I have lost work to Indians. In India.
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Sure make fun of those who have lost their jobs to illegals. Hopefully you didn't pick a useless degree or one that the labor market is overflowing with


    I know since Oklahoma enacted its HB 1804 no one has had to worry about illegals taking their jobs.




    There is also construction, landscaping,janitorial, factory work, cook and various other jobs.
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    being self-employed has it's perks, doesn't it?

    That doesn't mean people haven't been unable to find work because some illegal criminal alien is filling a job.

    Let's ditch the bogus argument that these invaders are filling jobs "Americans won't do". We all know that's nonsense, and it also violates basic economics.

    If employers can't find some to do a job at the wage they're offereing, they offer more money to increase the incentive. That's how it works.

    If people weren't paid to sit on their lazy asses to watch the Messiah on The View with money stolen from working taxpayers, there'd be more native Americans with the skills needed to pick strawberries out there looking for work, and there would certainly be no need for the illegal importation of hordes of invaders from Mexico.

    People do not have a right to live off money stolen from others, and invaders do not have a right to be in this country taking jobs from Americans.

    It really is that simple.
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I hate to disappoint you, James, but that law was suspended by court challenges. Search "Oklahoma Taxpayer And Citizen Protection Act" at this link: snopes.com: Update from Oklahoma
    Actually snopes got it wrong, only 2 of the 3 employment provisions were blocked, not the whole bill.

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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    don't get your panties in a bunch, It's a reference from a South Park episode.
    It was meant to poke at the opposition pissed about losing their jobs in that episode. I watch southpark as well.
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I have had to turn down some opportunities because the specific job sectors didn't pay enough, largely because they were populated by illegal immigrants.

    12 hour days, making approximately minimum wage, isn't good pay for eviscerating chickens.
    How much do you expect to get paid for a job where you require no training and a person with a 5th grade education could do efficiently? This is what kills me about the argument that immigrants are taking your jobs. If we didn't have illegal immigrants and you lost your job to some 16 year old would you then argue we should kick them all out? If you lost it to ghetto rat from Brooklyn would you say we need to kick the poor out? There will always be somebody willing to do things cheaper than you. And if they won't do it? Somebody else will. It's one of the downsides of the free market. Unless your job requires education, skill etc, somebody else will do it for far less money than you will.
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    Re: Have you ever lost out on a job due to illegal immigrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Der taking our jobs!!!

    I have yet to see this honestly..I suppose if you were looking to be a maid or fruit picker.
    Ah - right - because harvester and housekeeping are *all* that they do?

    As if people know *why* they weren't hired for a job or something - countless businesses (large and small) have been raided for hiring illegals, lost their licenses or worse over the last decade - Walmart being just one of them. . . discount retail outlets, restaurants, factories and processing plants - all of these come to mind when I hear about raids and trials.

    Illegals find employment under anyone who *wants to save money*

    They, not being citizens, work for crap wages . . . saving huge amounts of money for the boss (contractors, restaurant owners, etc)
    They, also, don't have to pay *any* kind of benefits - no 401K, no health care, no insurance of any type, no overtime . . . nothing.

    An employer needs to pay the illegals *just barely enough* to keep them coming back to work.

    So anytime you find an employer of any scale (small business, construction or retail giant) who *really really* wants to save some $$ - you'll find illegals being given employment.
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