View Poll Results: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I don't understand this blind faith that the free market always produces the socially optimal result. Businesses are motivated by profit, not by being good citizens of the world. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it's absurd to think that bad PR is enough to keep companies in line 100% of the time. Sometimes the law needs to step in and say "enough is enough." Invasions of privacy aren't more tolerable just because they're being perpetrated by a corporate hack instead of a government hack.
    I do believe I said that the prospective employee must consent. If you consent, it's hardly an invasion of privacy.

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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    I do believe I said that the prospective employee must consent. If you consent, it's hardly an invasion of privacy.
    So if they wanted to put a tracking chip in you, tap your phones or put a video camera in your home to monitor you it would be okay and not invasion of privacy because you gave consent as a precondition for employment?
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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So if they wanted to put a tracking chip in you, tap your phones or put a video camera in your home to monitor you it would be okay because you gave consent as a precondition for employment?
    If that's what I agree to, that's what I agree to. I have the choice NOT to agree to it.

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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If that's what I agree to, that's what I agree to. I have the choice NOT to agree to it.
    Are you saying that because you think that kind of stuff would never happen?
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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are you saying that because you think that kind of stuff would never happen?
    No, I'm saying that because I have a choice to agree to those conditions or not. It's my choice.

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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by chickie View Post
    Again, I disagree. It tells you everything. If that person has honor, integrity, makes paying their debt a priority, or is a deadbeat.


    Good point. I don't care but it's an interesting question.

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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If that's what I agree to, that's what I agree to. I have the choice NOT to agree to it.
    No, because some people WILL give their consent. This will give them a leg up in the hiring process, which will cause more people to give their consent. This will put everyone who DOESN'T consent at a disadvantage, which will result in a situation where nearly everyone "consents" to it even though they'd rather not and even though it doesn't serve any legitimate business purpose. Eventually it would just become ingrained in our cultural mindset that this is what you are supposed to do when you want to get a job.

    Setting precedents that protect privacy is more important than being allowed to bully your potential employees into "consenting" to ridiculous invasions of their privacy.
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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No, because some people WILL give their consent. This will give them a leg up in the hiring process, which will cause more people to give their consent. This will put everyone who DOESN'T consent at a disadvantage, which will result in a situation where nearly everyone "consents" to it even though they'd rather not and even though it doesn't serve any legitimate business purpose. Eventually it would just become ingrained in our cultural mindset that this is what you are supposed to do when you want to get a job.

    Setting precedents that protect privacy is more important than being allowed to bully your potential employees into "consenting" to ridiculous invasions of their privacy.
    Yeah... when I worked for the DoD and they required a background check before I could be hired, boy they really bullied me into it and set a horrible precedent of privacy invasion when I AGREED to allow them to do it.

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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yeah... when I worked for the DoD and they required a background check before I could be hired, boy they really bullied me into it and set a horrible precedent of privacy invasion when I AGREED to allow them to do it.
    Requiring a clean background for a job at DoD is a legitimate job-related concern.

    Now if an employer wants to use a credit check for a job involving finances, that's fine. I'd certainly understand that. But just using a credit check to get a vague sense for how "responsible" an employee might be is an invasion of privacy.
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    Re: Regarding Hiring, Should Companies be able to Check your Credit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Requiring a clean background for a job at DoD is a legitimate job-related concern.
    So they said.

    Now if an employer wants to use a credit check for a job involving finances, that's fine. I'd certainly understand that. But just using a credit check to get a vague sense for how "responsible" an employee might be is an invasion of privacy.
    I think doing a credit check is utter horse**** and isn't going to give an employer any legitmate insight whatsoever into a prospective employee, but it's not an invasion of privacy if the prospective employee consents. And, the employer should be perfectly free to use their own guidelines for hiring people. If that means they want to see a good credit score, so be it. If you don't want them to see yours, don't consent and find work elsewhere.

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