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Thread: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    OK, but that's not my problem. People have to raise their own kids. I should not be held responsible because of it. The tobacco and alcohol companies shouldn't be held responsible because of it. People make the choice to have kids. It's hard, it's not easy, it's tough and requires countless hours. That's their choice and the consequence of it. Why can't a tobacco company have a commercial? Because kids may see it? If a parent can't sit down with their kid and overall in their life have a more positive and powerful influence over their kids than a commercial...well they probably shouldn't have been a parent in the first place. But it's not my problem, and it's not the tobacco company's problem, and it's not the alcohol company's problem. It's the parents problem. They have to do the work, they have to put in the effort. Yes, tobacco and alcohol are bad for you, certainly there is room for reasonable regulation to make them state these things. But people are free to make choices, and if someone chooses to smoke or drink; that's their choice. They are beholden to the consequences of it. No one else.

    I grow weary of the "Oh won't someone please think of the children" arguments. Helen Lovejoy coming out of the woodwork. And the "it's bad for you" argument is just as bad. Who are you to tell me what I can or can't do? Just because it's bad for me doesn't mean I can't do it or the company can't advertise. If some people are so strongly inclined to try to save us from ourselves, they should be pushing for prohibition. But as it stands, tobacco and alcohol are legal products. And there's no reason to forbid a company selling legal products from advertising their products. That's it. Don't care if it "influences the children", go be a parent. I don't care if "it's bad for me", it's my damned choice. If it's legal, it should be allowed to be advertised.
    You're preaching to the choir here Ikari. I think the Marlboro man is cool. If we can advertise pharmaceuticals that might kill you or make your babies come out toothless and naked, and advertise Vodka, or even military recruitment, why should the cigarette industry be singled out? People have been selling snake-oil since they invented money. Some people buy into it, some don't. Where's the line?

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Tobacco companies have very strict regulations for advertising but why is it so relaxed when it comes to Alcohol companies. I can't watch a TV show or getting on the internet without seeing some kind of Alcoholic beverage commercial.

    This commercials do a great job of portraying consumption of "Alcohol" as cool and fun. I got nothing against Alcohol but I really don't think we need to have these advertisements, it should be regulated like Tobacco companies when it comes to advertising.
    I don't think the government has the right to ban the advertisement of a legal product. Why stop at alcohol? Heart disease is the number one cause of death in America. Why not just have the government regulate food commercials? No more Burking King or Taco Bell commercials. How about they regulate car commercials? Only the cars that are the most environmentally friendly should be allowed to be advertised. Give the government an inch and they will take a mile (through eminent domain of course). Plus alcohol commercials are already regulated. Have you ever seen anyone actually drink an alcoholic beverage in a commercial? It would seem odd that no one would be drinking the product being sold. Due to regulations no alcohol commercial can show people drinking the alcohol.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You're preaching to the choir here Ikari. I think the Marlboro man is cool. If we can advertise pharmaceuticals that might kill you or make your babies come out toothless and naked, and advertise Vodka, or even military recruitment, why should the cigarette industry be singled out? People have been selling snake-oil since they invented money. Some people buy into it, some don't. Where's the line?

    Besides, I really like this guy here --->
    Not only would you lose that guy, you would also lose the most interesting man in the world!!
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    Not only would you lose that guy, you would also lose the most interesting man in the world!!
    That I could deal with.

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You mean besides the fact that it's not the government's job to "phase out" a product, that's what the market is for.

    There's that.
    That would work even better if we were allowed to ala carte our cable options. But the cable companies didn't want to, so it's all packaged. That way we all have to pay for ****ty channels like Oxygen instead of letting them die. But if we had true ala carte, we could have all sorts of channels set at market price. If not a lot of people wanted a channel, but those people were die hard fans of the topic and were willing to shell out a bit more, you could still do it. But if no one wanted your channel, then you're SOL. I think something like that were it's direct buy of channels would go a LONG way into improving the format and quality of our TV entertainment...but that's another thread for another time.
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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    They are a baseball team located in Chicago. (and they are better than the Cubs )
    You...you...heathen! The Cubs are the greatest team ever, they won back to back world series titles And not too long ago they took the NL Central twice in a row! The Cubs are infinitely better and cooler than the White Sox.

    BTW, I'm going to see the Cubs play this weekend at Coors Field (I live in CO now). They jack the prices on tickets when the Cubs come into town. Kinda sucks, but I guess Daley needs his cut.
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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    People are responsible for there own decisions and the consequences there of

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    True... but only a small percentage actually take the reins for a variety of reasons... Lack of confidence, won't stick their necks out, burned too many times when they did, don't know what to do in new situations, don't want to make waves... That's why bosses outnumber workers 20 to one... Psychology 101

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    True... but only a small percentage actually take the reins for a variety of reasons... Lack of confidence, won't stick their necks out, burned too many times when they did, don't know what to do in new situations, don't want to make waves... That's why bosses outnumber workers 20 to one... Psychology 101

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    If bosses outnumber workers 20 to 1 doesn't that mean a large percentage of people do take the reigns?
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Should Alcohol companies not be allowed to advertise?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    True... but only a small percentage actually take the reins for a variety of reasons... Lack of confidence, won't stick their necks out, burned too many times when they did, don't know what to do in new situations, don't want to make waves... That's why bosses outnumber workers 20 to one... Psychology 101

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