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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    A qualified Yes, African Americans who can trace their ancestry back to slavery because slave masters had sex with female slaves.
    Somebody would better work in the dictionary to prepare another identifcation word before it is too late and be accused of racism.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Yet another stupid thread started by conservatives to bash Obama over something so minor and insignificant. You would think after 8 years of partisan liberal hacks pulling this crap on Bush, conservatives would realize how stupid these sort of threads make people look.
    I think you inadvertently used the plural, "conservatives," instead of the singular, "a conservative."

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Right, it's an assumptuon.

    Where in this thread have I said people can't or shouldn't make assumptions?

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Because:

    1. WHO says something DOES matter into the context. It gives you a history into their views to know if they've said or done other things to suggest the intent and context behind the words. Your buddy yelling "Hey Asshole" to you is likely to cause you to react differently then random person from the street yelling "Hey Asshole". Why? Because you have knowledge about your buddy and are thus able to better gauge what is likely meant by the comment even though its a similar comment.

    2. WHO said it would allow you to more easily look for additional context or give you a guess that there's more to the comment then simply "African Americans are a mongrel people". Saying "African Americans are a mongrel people, and they should be subjigated so that the White man can take his rightful place as rulers once more" and saying "African Americns are a mongrel people, who like white people, are a race of mixed national origins" are two VERY different meanings and things that both start out with the same snippeted comment. WHO said it allows one to more easily find out the additional comments surroudning it.

    Together, those things make up CONTEXT...you know, this important thing we use to make decisions.

    What you and Goobie are arguing is the same ignorant idea based around the notion that if someone ever says the N-word they are racist because the N-Word automatically ='s racist.
    Well, to clarify, Im not arguing anything, I was asking a question, and trying to get the answer that nobody would give Gooober.
    Mission Accomplished on my behalf.

    And yes, I agree with your posts about context and who makes a statement makes a difference when we have two different meanings of a word used, etc, etc.

    As far as your comment about the N word... well, there is poor Mr. Howard and his use of the word niggardly.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    As far as your comment about the N word... well, there is poor Mr. Howard and his use of the word niggardly.
    Intersting that you brought this up. What did you think of the Chariman of the NAACP defending Howard back then?
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ... you really dont have anything worthwhile here by refusing to answer these questions:

    How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
    And how would that have changed your response?

    You'll continue to refuse to answer them and I'll continue to laugh at your pettiness and unwarranted self-importance.
    You have continued to refuse to address the issue about why you did not include context in your OP and why you continue to ignore this point and instead addres who said it... something that is not being addressed. Once you do that, I will answer your questions. Until then I'll continue to laugh at your dishonesty and refusal actually address what is being discussed.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You are missing the point CC.
    Goobie is demonstrating how simply WHO says something is what is CREATING the "context" for many thread followers and participants, and sadly, for many people across the nation. One poster's example of the poor mr. Howard using the term niggardly even with proper context and being used in the proper manner for a dictionary fitting use of the word was not enough, because of WHO this word was coming FROM. The race of Mr. Howard was all the context far too many people needed to opine on the matter.
    If you look at the thread, Caine, all folks are addressing is the context of what was said. People don't care who said it. Further, speaking for myself, I don't care who said it. Based on the context, it means the same thing regardless. Goobie is trying to trap people into attacking Obama by NOT addressing the context of what was said. This is the point that he has refused to respond to.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Maybe, but "I killed the ass" is such an unusual thing to say, you'd automatically want more context, especially if a President said it.
    And using the term "a mongrel people" is something we hear everyday? I don't think so.

    You're pretty much admitting what I said -- you were overly concerned with context because it was Goobieman. If someone else had asked the same question, no, I don't think you'd have been as concerned.
    Not at all. I said the opposite. I would have been more skeptical if it was Goobie, but I would have checked the article either way. Wouldn't have mattered who posted it.

    Do I agree it was baited and that Goobieman does that kind of thing? Sure. All the time.
    Good. Thank you.

    But the point is, in this case, it was a good question to ask, even if he has that history. It's a good point to make.

    And that point is, in case you missed it -- people DON'T ask for context when that kind of statement is made. It's all good and well to say it matters, which it does, but that's not how people operate. If they did, David Howard wouldn't have lost his job.
    Thing is, on this forum people DO ask for context. And did, immediately. And just because people don't ask for context, doesn't mean that context is not key in deciphering what is being said.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Regardless of all the bantering going on back and forth on this thread, it was an EXCELLENT post. Most of us couldn't help but learn something here. If anyone didn't, they just weren't trying hard enough. (I'm gathering that Goobie is known for this; that just makes the poster "enlightening" -- not disingenuous.)
    Then you missed what was being stated in the bantering.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    This has actually been an interesting thread. It failed miserably in what it was intended to do, but it did create some interesting discussions among those willing to listen to each other.
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