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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    She huffs and puffs, but still can't blow down the house.

    How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
    And how would that have changed your response?

    I cannot possibly see how any of the "context" issues have any relevance to someones' asnwer to the question. Show me how I am wrong.
    The ONLY way they make any difference is if your answer to the question depends on who asks (or, in this case, who makes the statement).
    Is that indeed the case?
    If you waned an honest discussion, instead of trying to not reveal what was said, in it's entirety, you should have opened with the full comment and asked opinions. When asking people to form opinions based on partial evidence, you are trying to set something up.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If you waned an honest discussion, instead of trying to not reveal what was said, in it's entirety, you should have opened with the full comment and asked opinions. When asking people to form opinions based on partial evidence, you are trying to set something up.
    i think you are missing the point. whether that is by design, only you would know

    let's replace the use of "mongrel" with "niggardly" and expose its useage, asking if it is an appropriate term to use
    certainly both have legitimate uses, but both can be bent to convey negative connotations
    by exposing those words as they were used by a public official deprives the person being polled of an ability to recognize that the context in which each word is used has significance. without the applied context, many may be inclined to have a knee jerk reaction. we saw this in the media a while back with the use of "niggardly" despite the word then being used in a benign manner

    a couple of moderators seem to want to assign a malignant intent to the OP's thread and the way it was presented. you would have basis to know the forum member's posting history, and that very possibly colors your assumptions. but it should be recognized that even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i think you are missing the point. whether that is by design, only you would know

    let's replace the use of "mongrel" with "niggardly" and expose its useage, asking if it is an appropriate term to use
    certainly both have legitimate uses, but both can be bent to convey negative connotations
    by exposing those words as they were used by a public official deprives the person being polled of an ability to recognize that the context in which each word is used has significance. without the applied context, many may be inclined to have a knee jerk reaction. we saw this in the media a while back with the use of "niggardly" despite the word then being used in a benign manner

    a couple of moderators seem to want to assign a malignant intent to the OP's thread and the way it was presented. you would have basis to know the forum member's posting history, and that very possibly colors your assumptions. but it should be recognized that even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while
    Except that did not occur here. If one uses the word niggardly, whether it be a public official or not, HOW the word is used in context is key in ascribing meaning. And that meaning, in context will be consistent regardless of who says it.

    In this case, the blind squirrel still hasn't found the nut.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Except that did not occur here. If one uses the word niggardly, whether it be a public official or not, HOW the word is used in context is key in ascribing meaning. And that meaning, in context will be consistent regardless of who says it.

    In this case, the blind squirrel still hasn't found the nut.
    you have just made my argument, defending the OP's thread
    had he inserted the actual useage as the moderators have suggested, recognition that context counts in the application of the word "mongrel" would have been lost
    let the OP keep his nuts
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you have just made my argument, defending the OP's thread
    had he inserted the actual useage as the moderators have suggested, recognition that context counts in the application of the word "mongrel" would have been lost
    let the OP keep his nuts
    No, if he had inserted the actual usage, understanding the context would have portrayed the word honestly, rather than attempting to make a disintegritous connection. The speaker would have remained irrelevant... except to the OP who wanted to create the trap.

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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If you waned an honest discussion...
    If you had an honest problem with all of this, you'd answer these questions:

    How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
    And how would that have changed your response?

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Meh, I was like 13 when I saw that movie. They didn't go into too much military history before highschool when I was growing up.
    Gotcha. I got into WW2 in '75 or '76.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Jumping over Obama for saying "africans Americans are a mongrel people" is still petty and just doing the the same stuff stupid libs did when Bush was in office.
    Yeah... but who is doing that?

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I already demonstrated how...
    ... you really dont have anything worthwhile here by refusing to answer these questions:

    How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
    And how would that have changed your response?

    You'll continue to refuse to answer them and I'll continue to laugh at your pettiness and unwarranted self-importance.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, if he had inserted the actual usage, understanding the context would have portrayed the word honestly, rather than attempting to make a disintegritous connection. The speaker would have remained irrelevant... except to the OP who wanted to create the trap.

    He can't keep what he couldn't find.
    You are missing the point CC.
    Goobie is demonstrating how simply WHO says something is what is CREATING the "context" for many thread followers and participants, and sadly, for many people across the nation. One poster's example of the poor mr. Howard using the term niggardly even with proper context and being used in the proper manner for a dictionary fitting use of the word was not enough, because of WHO this word was coming FROM. The race of Mr. Howard was all the context far too many people needed to opine on the matter.
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