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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hey - you're the one complain about the lack of context...

    Answer the question:
    How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
    And how would that have changed your response?
    Goobie, let's be real here.

    You asked the question knowing full well that the comment was made by a Black person, specifically, the President. You had to know that had any Liberal come in here and disagreed with what the President said before realizing that he said it, you could use their comments against them by referring back to the President using his words against not only the Liberal poster but the President himself. To that extent, you've been disingenuous. However, as a "standalone" question, it's not a bad question to ask. I'd even afford it it's legitimacy if I could believe you came up with the question either off the top of your head or it came up in conversation elsewhere, i.e., during a social discussion, and you decided to poss it here. But we all know that wasn't the case.

    So, let's be honest. Yours was a social-political trap designed to catch certain posters as they twisted in the wind from their reply. But as we're seeing most people really haven't taken the bait.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 07-29-10 at 10:37 PM.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You absolutely did change the context by not posting or addressing the entire statement. There are plenty of things to attack Obama about. It's silly that you have to make stuff up to do it.
    What's that? Still think your opinion is meanigful? Yawn.

    How should have I asked it to bring it into context?
    And how would that have changed your response?

    I cannot possibly see how any of the "context" issues have any relevance to someones' asnwer to the question. Show me how I am wrong.
    The ONLY way they make any difference is if your answer to the question depends on who asks (or, in this case, who makes the statement).
    Is that indeed the case?
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i think it did
    the point which the OP was trying to establish was whether the use of the term "mongrel" would be viewed differently, depending on who said it
    and from reading the thread, there are a number - including myself - who agree that is would
    THis man gets a cookie.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    OK, everyone who's complaining that he didn't offer "context" here . . .

    Why didn't the early poll respondents ask for any? What did they assume?

    And, it is true -- no Republican would have survived using exactly the same words in exactly the same context. Heck, the View ladies would have rended the flesh from his bones on the spot. Who seriously thinks they wouldn't?

    Even non-Republican white guys would be pilloried for this, and in fact, anyone remember David Howard? He didn't refer to race at all, and he was flayed just because people were too ignorant to know what the word he used meant.

    So yeah, I think part of the point was in fact the reaction to the phrase itself, no matter the context.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Americans are mongrels unless you are a first generation immigrant. Very few Americans can claim unmixed heritage to any certain ethnic group.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Goobie, let's be real here.
    You asked the question knowing full well that the comment was made by a Black person, specifically, the President. You had to know that had any Liberal come in here and disagreed with what the President said before realizing that he said it, you could use their comments against them by referring back to the President using his words against not only the Liberal poster but the President himself. To that extent, you've been disingenuous.
    On the contrary -- the dishonesty and disingenousnessis among those that base their answer to the question on who made the statement. The question itself requires no context (which is different than a possible need to expain the terms as happened early on) as it would have been just as valid if no one had made a statement to that effect.
    Those crying about context simply dont like that the question exposes people for what they are.

    fact of the matter is you dont need to know who made the statement or what context he made it in order to answer my question.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    From that perspective, I agree with you. But even you have to admit (to yourself atleast), you had hoped to bait a few folks with the question. Regardless, it's a good test of one's social integrity.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    And as for CC and Redress -- if anyone OTHER than Goobieman had asked the question "Are African-Americans a mongrel people," would either of you have said, thoughtfully, "Hmmm. In what context do you mean that"? Be honest.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You know the origin of the term "flak" right?
    Yeah, from WWII movies.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And as for CC and Redress -- if anyone OTHER than Goobieman had asked the question "Are African-Americans a mongrel people," would either of you have said, thoughtfully, "Hmmm. In what context do you mean that"? Be honest.
    I am a big fan of context. The fact that Goobie loves trap threads just made the need more obvious.
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