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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    How are blacks "mixed"? Mixed with what????
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This is an absolute lie. I was asked to better define the term, and I did; it was quite clear from my response that the term was used as intended by The Obama.

    The Obama clearly made the statement, and I did nothing to change the context in which He said it.
    You absolutely did change the context by not posting or addressing the entire statement. There are plenty of things to attack Obama about. It's silly that you have to make stuff up to do it.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I would certainly think so. What's your point?
    That who said it is irrelevant. Good, we agree.


    I certainly did not. I put forth the statement and solicited opinions.
    As you said, who said it shoudln't matter, and so noting that The Obama said in The View would be irrelevant.
    You are being dishonest again. I said nothing about WHO said it. I said you did not post the entire conversation, therefore making a statement out of context. I know that you want to avoid this simple fact because it exposes you as being dishonest, but since this is all I am addressing, your diversions from discussing this point are noted as dancing away from the issue.


    Is -that- all you have o say on the matter?
    Good. Your self-imporant opoinin is noted and discarded.
    You may leave now.
    No, I think I'll stay and continue to confront your dishonesty until you can reply to what I have actually addressed with you.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The topic is disingenuous from the get go.
    You planned on getting a bunch of liberals to say that someone using the word mongrel was racist or bigoted.
    Then you were going to spring the trap that Obama said it, only you would of withheld the actual context of it.

    It's pretty dishonest.
    Exactly. Harry gets it.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Perhaps you cant... but don't tell me there wouldn't be 40 threads on it.
    So what, Reverend? If it was posted in the context that Goobie did, I would say it was dishonest posting. If it was posted IN context, I would take the same stance I'm taking with this. It's a non-issue. I am not responsible for others starting 40 threads on it. I am responsible for MY position... which is consistent regardless of who posts it or who said it. I don't buy into the who stupid racism card dealt by either side.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    In most cases what makes something offensive is the intent or perceived intent when saying it.

    Obama was clearly not intending the offensive meaning behind this terminology (as he would be classified as a mongrel himself along with his childern). Which means what he said was not offensive

    Someone else, say a member of the KKK saying the same words, but with the intent to denigrate african americans through the use of those words, would make them offensive.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Only if you argue that those same liberals would have had the same response of outrage knowing who said it.
    So far, there's nothing to support that.
    Of course, Goobie. Just like most of your threads, all this was, was an attack on liberals. And one that was very poorly constructed and even more poorly pulled off.
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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    I've called myself a mutt or a mongrel for as long as I can remember, as have many of my friends (when describing their own heritage/background). Hardly anybody is purely anything, these days. I'm half-finn, half COMPLETELY unaccounted for. My mom is adopted, and her mom didn't know who the father was. So - yeah. Don't get the big deal, personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I think when he said this he meant it as in a way to describe the African American culture. Mongrel as in mixed cultures then yes I would actually agree with that.

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    He says we're all kinds of mixed up - we know more about it and you call that arrogance? How so?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Then, Obama said about African-Americans in general, “We are sort of a mongrel people.”

    “I mean we’re all kinds of mixed up,” Obama said. “That’s actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it.”


    Wow. "We just know more about it". Good Lord, the arrogance of this man!

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    Re: Are African-Americans a mongrel people?

    Yet another stupid thread started by conservatives to bash Obama over something so minor and insignificant. You would think after 8 years of partisan liberal hacks pulling this crap on Bush, conservatives would realize how stupid these sort of threads make people look.

    Moving on to what Obama said, he's 100% correct. Blacks Americans are a mongrel people. So are most white Americans. I'm a Heinz 57 white dude. My ethnic ancestry includes Irish, Italian, German, Lithuanian, a smattering of Cherokee, and possibly English and/or Scottish. And most of my friends have a similar mixed ethnic background. My wife is half Italian, half Polish and I find that level of ethnic "purity" to be exceptionally rare among white Americans my age who are not immigrants (or possibly the children of immigrants).

    As for African Americans, slaves were taken from all over west Africa, covering many different tribes and nations. Once they got here, they all mixed and mingled to form black America. Plus, most blacks that can trace their ancestry back to the slave days also have some white blood in them, thanks to master's indiscretions with his favorite pretty young slave.

    American is basically a mongrel nation. Anyone who disputes that either doesn't know what the word means or lives in an alternate reality.
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