View Poll Results: Who would you most likely support?

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  • Ron Paul

    23 40.35%
  • Sarah Palin

    2 3.51%
  • Newt Gingrich

    6 10.53%
  • Mitt Romney

    6 10.53%
  • Gary Johnson

    1 1.75%
  • Bobby Jindal

    2 3.51%
  • Mike Huckabee

    2 3.51%
  • Jeb Bush

    2 3.51%
  • Paul Ryan

    2 3.51%
  • Other conservative or libertarian candidate

    11 19.30%
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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    I got in an argument with my dad during 2008 because he said, "If she doesn't get the nomination this time, she won't run again. It's her only chance."
    I asked why, and he said, "She'll be too old in 2012."
    I was like, "She's not that old, she's only like sixty."
    And he said, "For a woman, that's too old. Nobody would vote for her."

    I hope that's not true. I mean, what, do you have to look like Sarah Palin to run for president?
    We haven't exactly come a long enough way, have we. It saddens me that people feel this way about a perfectly vital woman. Considering women tend to live longer than men, 60 is pretty great for a female politician.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    A question for people who blasted Obama on experience: Do you think Paul is experienced enough to be president, seeing as he's never held office higher than Congressman?
    What positions are "higher" than Congressman?

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    I'd rather vote for Colin Powell than for any of the other choices presented.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    What positions are "higher" than Congressman?
    Governor



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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Governor
    I don't consider being an executive of a state to be higher than a legislator on a national level. While I agree that a governorship is excellent for executive experience in preparation of being a President, a governor has to focus more on state issues rather than national issues. This can make governors rather provincial in their policies - that is, what they think was good for their own state will be good for the whole country. However, the whole nation has a greatly diverse demographic, and the President represents all of them despite being the one man at the top level of the national executive.

    This, I think, national legislators would have a better understanding of. Our Congressmen and Senators have to work together and debate with each other on national issues, and much of it get done through compromise and understand (though not necessarily agreement) of the other side. So I think our Congressmen and Senators have a better understanding of national issues than governors do.

    So I would prefer legislators with national experience over exeuctives who have nothing higher than state-level experience.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't consider being an executive of a state to be higher than a legislator on a national level. While I agree that a governorship is excellent for executive experience in preparation of being a President, a governor has to focus more on state issues rather than national issues. This can make governors rather provincial in their policies - that is, what they think was good for their own state will be good for the whole country. However, the whole nation has a greatly diverse demographic, and the President represents all of them despite being the one man at the top level of the national executive.

    This, I think, national legislators would have a better understanding of. Our Congressmen and Senators have to work together and debate with each other on national issues, and much of it get done through compromise and understand (though not necessarily agreement) of the other side. So I think our Congressmen and Senators have a better understanding of national issues than governors do.

    So I would prefer legislators with national experience over exeuctives who have nothing higher than state-level experience.
    I completely disagree. The executive experience trumps the exposure to national issues. The reality is that it is the staff of those representatives, Congressman, Senator, or Governor, that hold all the knowledge about the issues. After all the campaigning and doing favors for the high-end donors, a politician has little time to be educated on the issues, other than bullet points.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I completely disagree. The executive experience trumps the exposure to national issues.
    I don't think so. The interests involved in executing the laws of a state pale in comparison to the interests involved in executing the laws of a nation. When you are governor, it is easier to ignore some groups in favor of the interests of your state. When you are the President, you are the sole executive representative for your supporters as well as for your detractors. That changes the whole ball game and requires more of a compromising touch than what a governor requires.

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    The reality is that it is the staff of those representatives, Congressman, Senator, or Governor, that hold all the knowledge about the issues. After all the campaigning and doing favors for the high-end donors, a politician has little time to be educated on the issues, other than bullet points.
    I don't argue that, and in fact when it comes to the Presidency I prefer those who have worked in federal executive departments and agencies to Congressmen and Senators for this reason, that they get executive experience on a national level, but I prefer Congressmen and Senators over governors.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't think so. The interests involved in executing the laws of a state pale in comparison to the interests involved in executing the laws of a nation. When you are governor, it is easier to ignore some groups in favor of the interests of your state. When you are the President, you are the sole executive representative for your supporters as well as for your detractors. That changes the whole ball game and requires more of a compromising touch than what a governor requires.
    That's nonsense. A governor has to lead the entire population of the state, supporters and detractors both, as well. And we see little of a compromising touch at the level of the Presidency as well. Two items in support: executing the war in Iraq and the Healthcare Bill.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That's nonsense. A governor has to lead the entire population of the state, supporters and detractors both, as well. And we see little of a compromising touch at the level of the Presidency as well. Two items in support: executing the war in Iraq and the Healthcare Bill.
    That's because political parties prefer to those who are uncompromising despite the will of the common people, and this is why we have harsh pendulum swings in politics rather than stable centrist compromise. Also, the current Democratic President is continuing the war in Iraq that the Republican President before him started, and the Healthcare Bill is a matter of compromise within Congress, not the President.

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    Re: 2012 Poll for those who do not want to vote for Obama [again]....

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    the current Democratic President is continuing the war in Iraq that the Republican President before him started
    Thank the Lord for that. It is his only redeeming quality. Finish it right, for once.

    the Healthcare Bill is a matter of compromise within Congress, not the President.
    Don't be coy. You know the president drives a lot of the negotiations, or lack thereof, in that debate.

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