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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    There is some part of this story that you are simply not aware of or are not telling. Teachers don't get paid 160,000 for being a teacher.
    Yes, I'll be interested in some back up for that figure as well.

    Teachers in California negotiate salaries with the individual school districts. I've never heard of any district anywhere in the state offering a top teacher salary of $160 grand. The supertintendent may make that or more, but then, he's a politician rather than an educator.

    The retirement benefits are pretty good, but nowhere near that 3% per year and being able to retire at the tender age of 52. Here, if you quit before the age of 61 and a half (63 with less than 30 years) you get a pittance.

    As for those health bennies, yes, they're great. A few districts used to pay for retirees health insurance, back when health care wasn't so expensive. That perk has gone out the window.

    Teachers who are doing the job they have contracted to do, and that includes most of them, are worth a lot more than they are being paid. Teachers are expected to take on all comers, whether or not they are prepared for class or have any interest in learning or any back up at home, show progress with gang bangers and crack babies, keep order among children who have no other order in their lives, and put up with incompetent administration and a dozen layers of incompetent bureaucracy making assinine rules to live by. Teachers are grossly underpaid for what they have to do.
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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    There is some part of this story that you are simply not aware of or are not telling. Teachers don't get paid 160,000 for being a teacher.
    Ah, but they do, Dezaad. Try to find out the salaries of individual teachers in YOUR area. In Illinois, there's a watchdog group where you can simply enter in the teacher's name and get the salary. I'm sure their legal eagles fought thru the Freedom of Information Act to get this information. See if YOUR state has one. Family Taxpayers Foundation

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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ah, but they do, Dezaad. Try to find out the salaries of individual teachers in YOUR area. In Illinois, there's a watchdog group where you can simply enter in the teacher's name and get the salary. I'm sure their legal eagles fought thru the Freedom of Information Act to get this information. See if YOUR state has one. Family Taxpayers Foundation



    The public has zero input. It's like every other beaurocracy. Impossible to stop the steamroller.
    Then you should have no problem showing us a few teachers (not administrators) making $160 grand or more per year, correct?
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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Then you should have no problem showing us a few teachers (not administrators) making $160 grand or more per year, correct?
    Salary: $176,504
    Position: High School Teacher
    Full/Part Time: Fulltime
    Percent Time Employed: 100%
    Assignment: Physical Education
    Years Teaching: 29
    Degree: Master's
    Salary: $172,281
    Position: High School Teacher
    Full/Part Time: Fulltime
    Percent Time Employed: 100%
    Assignment: Graphic Design/Commercial Art
    Years Teaching: 31
    Degree: Master's
    Here are a couple copied right off the website. I'm obviously not going to post the teacher's names. Take it or leave it. There's a link to the site in one of my earlier posts. Do your homework. You'll see it. I don't lie.
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    I vote other since I believe the entire public school system should be scrapped and turned into a private school. This way a person that doesn't have children isn't paying for someone else's children to go to school.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, I'll be interested in some back up for that figure as well.

    Teachers in California negotiate salaries with the individual school districts. I've never heard of any district anywhere in the state offering a top teacher salary of $160 grand. The supertintendent may make that or more, but then, he's a politician rather than an educator.

    The retirement benefits are pretty good, but nowhere near that 3% per year and being able to retire at the tender age of 52. Here, if you quit before the age of 61 and a half (63 with less than 30 years) you get a pittance.

    As for those health bennies, yes, they're great. A few districts used to pay for retirees health insurance, back when health care wasn't so expensive. That perk has gone out the window.

    Teachers who are doing the job they have contracted to do, and that includes most of them, are worth a lot more than they are being paid. Teachers are expected to take on all comers, whether or not they are prepared for class or have any interest in learning or any back up at home, show progress with gang bangers and crack babies, keep order among children who have no other order in their lives, and put up with incompetent administration and a dozen layers of incompetent bureaucracy making assinine rules to live by. Teachers are grossly underpaid for what they have to do.
    Ditto Head -- return the favor. Where's a link that shows me you even KNOW what teachers in California are paid. Other than "averages," I don't think you have a watchdog group who posts this very telling information. (Call Rush. He'll agree with me. Ha!)
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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, I'll be interested in some back up for that figure as well.

    Teachers in California negotiate salaries with the individual school districts. I've never heard of any district anywhere in the state offering a top teacher salary of $160 grand. The supertintendent may make that or more, but then, he's a politician rather than an educator.

    The retirement benefits are pretty good, but nowhere near that 3% per year and being able to retire at the tender age of 52. Here, if you quit before the age of 61 and a half (63 with less than 30 years) you get a pittance.

    As for those health bennies, yes, they're great. A few districts used to pay for retirees health insurance, back when health care wasn't so expensive. That perk has gone out the window.

    Teachers who are doing the job they have contracted to do, and that includes most of them, are worth a lot more than they are being paid. Teachers are expected to take on all comers, whether or not they are prepared for class or have any interest in learning or any back up at home, show progress with gang bangers and crack babies, keep order among children who have no other order in their lives, and put up with incompetent administration and a dozen layers of incompetent bureaucracy making assinine rules to live by. Teachers are grossly underpaid for what they have to do.
    You are overgeneralizing. Many teachers have to deal with unruly kids, but I can't imagine many have to deal with gangbangers and crack babies with the possible exception of of inner city schools. Yes, students are often uninterested in learning, but the teacher's job is to make sure they learn regardless of how difficult it is. Even if that means taking an unorthodox approach it is still part of the job. Public defendants have to defend murderers, rapists, etc so by your rationale they should be very highly paid.

    To be completely honest, I found at my school many of the teachers worked there to make students' lives a living hell. Many were totally irrational and either lacking in the material they were suppose to teach or poor teachers. Yes, there are good teachers, but I think a large amount of teachers do a poor job. Of course why do a good job? With tenure you would have to murder a student to get fired...
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Here are a couple copied right off the website. I'm obviously not going to post the teacher's names. Take it or leave it. There's a link to the site in one of my earlier posts. Do your homework. You'll see it. I don't lie.
    Wow, Maggie. That's some serious cash there. Did they have extra jobs in the district?


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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Here are a couple copied right off the website. I'm obviously not going to post the teacher's names. Take it or leave it. There's a link to the site in one of my earlier posts. Do your homework. You'll see it. I don't lie.
    Wow! I don't know whether to be outraged that some teachers make so much, or envious. I'd have to agree that is really a hefty salary for a high school teacher.
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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Wow! I don't know whether to be outraged that some teachers make so much, or envious. I'd have to agree that is really a hefty salary for a high school teacher.
    It's a well-kept secret, Ditto. Teachers make a very VERY good living for their nine months' work. Be outraged. You're paying for it.
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