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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Got it.

    According to the ISBE, the annual salary data reported to them is the same as the "total creditable earnings" reported to the Teachers Retirement System. It includes, among other things, extra-duty pay (coaching, clubs, etc.), board-paid retirement contributions, vacation and sick day buyouts, bonuses, and other compensation that the Teachers Retirement System includes in total creditable earnings. This salary data does not include the cost of employer-paid health insurance. Individual school district contracts should be consulted for details.
    You came into this thread a little late. My position was always that their salaries are augmented by extra-duty pay. The figures listed are their "contract figures." All teachers in the state of Illinois have employment contracts. Vacation and sick day buyouts are part of annual compensation. And part of their package. The only thing that wouldn't be considered "pay" would be the employer contribution to their pension -- which, in Illinois, is 8%, I believe. Or just slightly more than Social Security. There are no surprises there -- other than that ONE.
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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Got it.



    You came into this thread a little late. My position was always that their salaries are augmented by extra-duty pay. The figures listed are their "contract figures." All teachers in the state of Illinois have employment contracts. Vacation and sick day buyouts are part of annual compensation. And part of their package. The only thing that wouldn't be considered "pay" would be the employer contribution to their pension -- which, in Illinois, is 8%, I believe. Or just slightly more than Social Security. There are no surprises there -- other than that ONE.
    Those would not be figures that would be included when discussing one's salary. Further, I don't know what the deal is in Illinois, but in many states, teachers can "bank" their vacation/sick time from year to year rather than buying out. Between that and the board contribution, we are talking about additional numbers that don't get figured into one's salary, and that one does not receive monies for.
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    Sorry. Like mine better.
    I'm sure you do. I like mine better, so I'll go with that.
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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    We're talking contract salary. Or at least I'm talking contract salary. Soooo, if someone had elected to have their vacation/sick days bought out, it would be in their contract. No big deal.

    I like mine better, so I'll go with that.
    Me, too!!!! See!!!! We agree!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We're talking contract salary. Or at least I'm talking contract salary. Soooo, if someone had elected to have their vacation/sick days bought out, it would be in their contract. No big deal.
    Just because it is in their contract doesn't mean it is reflected monetarily in their pay.



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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Does she realize that what is quoted includes vacation buyouts and what the board adds into her retirement benefits? This is not salary.
    She said that is the number she was given at the beginning of the year when she signed her contract.


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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just because it is in their contract doesn't mean it is reflected monetarily in their pay.

    I think that's one of the points she was trying to make. Did you call the board of education to complain yet?


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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you look at my post earlier in this thread, you will see two other teachers' salaries posted from the website in the same district as my friend--TEACHERS with a Bachelor's earning $170,000 plus. It is accurate.

    @ Harry -- I agree with you. And, from the posts on this website, most people are not aware of teacher salaries. Again, I'll say, teachers are sacred cows....and it's because people are uninformed and/or misinformed intentionally.
    it's inaccurate. that said, i don't think have any more reason to complain about therir salaries than most other people do. they chose that career.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    What level of education is required to generally teach in the US?
    Excellent question,with many answers...With home schooling, in some states, one can be an illiterate and "teach" their children.
    Other states are a lot more on the ball.
    Its normally 4 years at college, but "teacher aids" do a lot of work and their qualifications are sketchy.
    My experience?
    All of my New York State teachers were, IMO, excellent.
    Much reform is necessary in this field as well.
    The older teachers are overcompensated and those just starting off are under-compensated.
    Their education can be improved,I think.
    Teaching is a gift.
    I have run across people who are gifted, yet they may have little or no education.
    We need ways to ID these people and make them teachers.

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    Re: Teacher Salaries By State

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't even like THINKING about it. Starting salaries may be about average (for a nine-month position, don't forget), but a few years down the road, and you're talking big bucks. Subjective experience: a friend started teaching at 22. She is retiring at 52. Last year, she made $160,000 as a Science Teacher, plus head of the Science Department at the high school. Her pension? 3% per year of service or $144,000 with a 3% increase per year. (Won't be quite that high for purists; they take an average of the last four years B4 they take the 3%.) Oh, and, of course, they get full medical insurance with a small kick-in.

    How on EARTH are taxpayers supposed to fund THAT?????
    State Starting Salary Average Salary 10-year increase Salary Comfort Index
    Alabama $31,368 $40,347 28.9% 13
    Alaska $38,657 $53,553 7.9% 30
    Arizona $30,404 $44,672 37.5% 35
    Arkansas $28,784 $42,768 44.8% 11
    California $35,760 $59,825 41.6% 44
    Colorado $35,086 $44,439 25.7% 12
    Connecticut $39,259 $59,304 18.0% 22
    Delaware $35,854 $54,264 33.9% 2
    Florida $33,427 $43,302 29.9% 26
    Georgia $34,442 $48,300 42.1% 3
    Hawaii $35,816 $49,292 37.7% 50
    Idaho $27,500 $41,150 33.2% 33
    Illinois $37,500 $58,686 43.4% 1
    Indiana $30,844 $47,255 25.4% 8
    Iowa $27,284 $41,083 26.9% 31
    Kansas $27,840 $41,467 28.1% 21
    Kentucky $30,619 $42,592 28.8% 15
    Louisiana $31,298 $40,029 45.4% 20
    Maine $26,643 $40,737 23.9% 47
    Maryland $37,125 $54,333 32.0% 37
    Massachusetts $35,421 $56,369 35.0% 34
    Michigan $35,557 $54,739 16.9% 4
    Minnesota $31,532 $48,489 31.3% 10
    Mississippi $28,200 $40,576 46.5% 19
    Missouri $29,281 $40,462 25.2% 16
    Montana $25,318 $39,832 35.6% 46
    Nebraska $29,303 $40,382 28.2% 17
    Nevada $27,957 $44,426 22.8% 45
    New Hampshire $28,279 $45,263 26.5% 48
    New Jersey $38,408 $58,156 19.3% 36
    New Mexico $33,730 $41,637 43.2% 29
    New York $37,321 $57,354 19.2% 38
    North Carolina $27,944 $43,922 44.4% 23
    North Dakota $24,872 $37,764 40.0% 43
    Ohio $33,671 $50,314 33.0% 6
    Oklahoma $29,174 $38,772 36.5% 18
    Oregon $33,699 $50,044 26.0% 14
    Pennsylvania $34,976 $54,027 17.2% 5
    Rhode Island $33,815 $54,730 31.0% 42
    South Carolina $28,568 $43,011 36.0% 24
    South Dakota $26,111 $34,709 31.7% 41
    Tennessee $32,369 $42,537 28.4% 9
    Texas $33,775 $41,744 32.9% 7
    Utah $26,521 $40,007 30.8% 39
    Vermont $26,461 $46,622 28.5% 49
    Virginia $33,200 $43,823 26.0% 25
    Washington $30,974 $46,326 22.4% 32
    West Virginia $26,704 $38,284 19.1% 40
    Wisconsin $25,222 $46,390 21.5% 28
    Wyoming $31,481 $43,255 37.0% 27

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