View Poll Results: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism

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Thread: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol. Sorry. I laughed. That is ridiculous.
    Choosing freeom over slavery is "ridiculous"?

    No wonder American is sliding into a slimy pit.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Choosing freeom over slavery is "ridiculous"?

    No wonder American is sliding into a slimy pit.
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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    The basic premise of this thread and poll is false. The USA isn't anything close to being socialist. A lean toward "fascism" in the last decade or so, but a more apt description would be corporatism.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    The basic premise of this thread and poll is false. The USA isn't anything close to being socialist. A lean toward "fascism" in the last decade or so, but a more apt description would be corporatism.
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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    It really took off after Nixon's visit to China.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    I'd say never for the Socialist part of the question, and I would say (for the fascist part) it was started under (not by) Eisenhower. I blame my states most infamous senator, McCarthy, for it.
    Reality tends to have a liberal bias.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    You mean like Greece and Cuba?
    Socialism??
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    And we all do this; otherwise, we are denying our humanity.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    I'd say never for the Socialist part of the question, and I would say (for the fascist part) it was started under (not by) Eisenhower. I blame my states most infamous senator, McCarthy, for it.
    Would actually say it started before that. McCarthy only played on peoples fears but he was in reality a blow back to the politician of the 1920s and 1930s and even before.

    As for socialist.. anyone calling the US for socialist does not understand the meaning of socialist.
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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Started toward economic fascism/corporatism under Theodore Roosevelt (though Lincoln did some during the Civil War, which is why I voted for him), started a little toward actual fascim during Wilson, but I think we've steered away from hyper-nationalism for the most part since then.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Started toward economic fascism/corporatism under Theodore Roosevelt (though Lincoln did some during the Civil War, which is why I voted for him), started a little toward actual fascim during Wilson, but I think we've steered away from hyper-nationalism for the most part since then.
    DUDE! are you like 200 years old?
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