View Poll Results: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism

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    2 1.75%
  • Under FDR

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Thread: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    TMI....!!!



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialism was started by those who wanted to be rich but didn't have the creativity or the ambition to get rich by creating things of value.
    And are YOU rich?

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialism was started by those who wanted to be rich but didn't have the creativity or the ambition to get rich by creating things of value.
    Yeah, like the Bedazzler and the Flowbee.
    And of course, the pièce de résistance: the ShamWOW!

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    And are YOU rich?
    according to Obama and his toadies-Yes



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Yeah, like the Bedazzler and the Flowbee.
    And of course, the pièce de résistance: the ShamWOW!
    was this one of those "I just had to say something but really couldn't think of anything intelligent to say" moments?



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I agree, the comments of a non citizen are not particularly relevant to a thread about the United States of America.
    So you've never had an opinion about things going on in Mexico?

    Israel?

    Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea?

    China?

    France? England? Sweden?

    You live in Ohio. Have you ever had an opinion on a state law or issue in California? Massachusetts? New York? Nevada?

    People can be affected by things that occur outside of the immediate vicinity they live in. A state law in California can have a ripple effect that affects Ohio, similarly the United States passing a law or having a stance on an issue can have a ripple effect that touches Canada, England, etc.

    Its an incredibly ignorant statement to say that Canadian policy doesn't affect you. Border and immigration policy on their end can directly affect the United States. Their laws regarding Universal Health Care were oft referenced and at times used as a baseline for instituting and arguing for such in the United States. They've been long standing allies in the War on Terror meaning their policies and actions on that will affect the men and women of our military directly. Just because you ignorantly believe that people should be isolated to having opinions about a singular country that they live and that one country has no affect on the other doesn't mean other people must lower themselves to such an ignorant opinion as well.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I agree.

    My point, however, is that just because the Nazis called themselves "socialists" doesn't mean they were.

    Those guys lied a lot, you know.
    Actually, the Nazi Party was socialist in the sense that the government controlled the means of production.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I agree.

    My point, however, is that just because the Nazis called themselves "socialists" doesn't mean they were.

    Those guys lied a lot, you know.
    More importantly, just because socialists want to say National Socialism wasn't socialism doesn't mean it wasn't.

    Since National Socialism was a form of socialism, it's the socialists that are lying, not the Nazis.


    Best way to avoid this conundrum is to reject all forms of socialism and become a capitalist and a libertarian.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    More importantly, just because socialists want to say National Socialism wasn't socialism doesn't mean it wasn't.

    Since National Socialism was a form of socialism, it's the socialists that are lying, not the Nazis.

    Best way to avoid this conundrum is to reject all forms of socialism and become a capitalist and a libertarian.
    Lol. Sorry. I laughed. That is ridiculous.
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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Haha - FDR SUCKS! apparently . . . yet everyone loved him so damn much back then.

    Odd - hunh?
    "Everyone"?

    42% Voted Against FDR in 1932
    39% Voted Against FDR in 1936
    46% Voted Against FDR in 1940
    47% Voted Against FDR in 1944

    When consistently 45 people out of 100 didn't like him? That's how "everyone" was defined back then?

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