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Thread: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    You can always tell who the sane and knowledgeable people are; they don't use those flashy buzz words shouted by pundits.
    They also don't pretend to be know it alls about countries they don't even live in either



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Personal view is that we are in fact in an accelerating downward spiral. Began in the days of LBJ when an underlying perception of "inherent entitlement" began to creep into our social fabric.

    Just one opinion among the many.....



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    They also don't pretend to be know it alls about countries they don't even live in either
    Oh looks like I struck a nerve.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Oh looks like I struck a nerve.
    not at all, I do find it amusing that I have never been on a board discussing Canadian politics because, frankly, it doesn't matter nor does it affect me.



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Yeah, socialism and fascism, the exact same thing.

    How can anyone take these kinds of polls seriously?

    Here's a clue, since you need one: There are two different words because they mean two different things. And, in fact, the two different things cannot co-exist.

    I know, a difficult concept for some here. Those of us with a dictionary -- or an 8th grade education in government -- see things a bit differently.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Yeah, socialism and fascism, the exact same thing.

    How can anyone take these kinds of polls seriously?

    Here's a clue, since you need one: There are two different words because they mean two different things. And, in fact, the two different things cannot co-exist.

    I know, a difficult concept for some here. Those of us with a dictionary -- or an 8th grade education in government -- see things a bit differently.
    technically and in the purest sense socialism and fascism are not the same. However, national socialism-a well known form of fascism and stalinist socialism basically meant the same thing for millions of people who were killed under both systems

    both systems are anti individual and subjugates individual freedom to state authority.

    both are diseases we should eradicate when possible



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    technically and in the purest sense socialism and fascism are not the same. However, national socialism-a well known form of fascism and stalinist socialism basically meant the same thing for millions of people who were killed under both systems
    Just because they called themselves that doesn't mean they were, any more than China is a true communist country.

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Just because they called themselves that doesn't mean they were, any more than China is a true communist country.
    there is no such thing as a pure communist country or a pure capitalist country etc



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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not at all, I do find it amusing that I have never been on a board discussing Canadian politics because, frankly, it doesn't matter nor does it affect me.
    This is relevant to the thread how?

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    Re: When did America start its downward spiral towards socialism/fascism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    This is relevant to the thread how?
    I agree, the comments of a non citizen are not particularly relevant to a thread about the United States of America.



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