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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I seem to stand alone in saying that no, it is not important. The reason why is that we have ISP competition in the local markets. If one of the ISPs started playing this crap, everyone would drop them for the open network provider.
    We don't have ISP competition though.

    I have two choices for my ISP, cable and telephone.
    Both of which are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer.

    As long as they derive some of their revenue from us (via subsidy), they must follow the net neutrality rules because they do not truly own the established lines.
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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    I meant to choose yes.
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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I seem to stand alone in saying that no, it is not important. The reason why is that we have ISP competition in the local markets. If one of the ISPs started playing this crap, everyone would drop them for the open network provider.
    It might not happen that way, especially if there is a profit incentive to do so. For example... offering internet packages based on what kind of sites you view, such as youtube, facebook, etc., and then charging people more for unlimited viewing of the web. The telecom industry is already trying to push this kind of business practice through government regulation right now in Canada and the U.S. If we start getting charged based on the kind of content we view, then all ISPs will do it because it will rake in profits for them.

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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I seem to stand alone in saying that no, it is not important. The reason why is that we have ISP competition in the local markets. If one of the ISPs started playing this crap, everyone would drop them for the open network provider.
    Except when the ISPs that do filter start muscling and buying out the ISPs that do not
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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Net Neutrality is anti-free market. The tele-communications market should not be even more anti-free market than it already is by law and not by market decisions. What we need is more telecom. infrastructure provided by the free market and less coercion from the state that sponsors corporate monopoly. More competition makes more choice. Net Neutrality perceives a skewed and exaggerated present that creates a bleak future if more government intervention isn't made. Net Neutrality creates a class struggle in this hypothetical future.

    Companies can make a whole lot of money from fiber optics but they don't want to be the ones that pay for it's development or be the ones to manage risk. They want the tax payer (victims of extortion) to pay for it. So they create this fraudulent "save the internet" campaign and most people buy into it crook, slime and stinker. Why is it do we always go on this reflexive crusade against corporations like Microsoft and Google for everything they do but then when they propose that the tax payer pay for infrastructure and endorse campaigns that fear people into it by making up hypothetical scenarios, we all of a sudden support them? I thought we all hated Corporations for all of the aggression they cause, lies they make, their irresponsibility and influence on public policy yet here we have net neutrality that is all of these things and more and we're supporting it? Probably because we think that it's going to hurt (other )corporations and make us, the proletarian mass, have more voice and control.

    We don't need net neutrality, we need government and justice neutrality by getting the government out of our lives and out of our business and by making corporations reliant on the voluntary contributions of consumers, not the extortion of taxes and aggressive "contracts".

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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say it is very important. I pay my cable company for certain amount speed and that this what I expect, the only time it should be slower is because of the person on the other end not because my cable company is restricting access or speed to that site.
    It was my understanding that our searches and clicks-to-go send us on a routing pattern through various channels that may be slow themselves. Like, I click on a link here in Chicago and tell my ISP to take me there. I beliee it's true that the path I take to get there varies by the amount of traffic on the chosen path. And that if I click on the same link tomorrow, I'm probably going to be routed another way.
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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    PS: Not related and is only coincidental. Is it me or is this site really really slow sometimes? Seems other sites are very fast compared.
    I've had this happen to me too. Sometimes the site doesn't load at all. But I am under the assumption that the site is just busy with too many people accessing it at one time.

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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    It is unnecessary regulation. Someone prove to me that there is a problem.
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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    We don't have ISP competition though.

    I have two choices for my ISP, cable and telephone.
    Both of which are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer.

    As long as they derive some of their revenue from us (via subsidy), they must follow the net neutrality rules because they do not truly own the established lines.
    That would make sense since taxpayers are the customers.
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    Re: Is net neutrality very important?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That would make sense since taxpayers are the customers.
    Yea well we pay for both the service and we pay them extra through government subsidy to install the cable and telephone lines.

    As long as we do that, they should have no say.
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