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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Naturally, of course, since teachers are salaried, extending the school year through the summer would come at no additional cost to the taxpayer.
    Do you really believe that? Running the school itself DOES cost money (utilities, paper and other supplies, etc.) plus you KNOW higher salaries would be demanded. Also, in many states, teachers are REQUIRED to take classes to maintain their certification status or they seek to upgrade their qualifications. The summer is the only time most teachers can do this...
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I'm just saying....that's how it is in the real world. Salaried means their paid to get the job done, and if that means surrendering that long summer where they can work a second job or goof off some more, too bad.

    Here's an idea!

    Rather than ruining their summer vacation, how about if the kids spend more time in school under instruction during the school year?

    No random half-days off at the whim of the school administrators who want to go fishing, no 9-to-2 scheduling. A straight eight to five day, so they can get used to what life is going to be, and so the teachers can finally find out what it's like for real Americans who actually work for a living.
    You think teachers only work the scheduled school day? When I was teaching high school, I usually arrived at school at about 7:45 in the morning and during the soccer season rarely left before 6PM and often didn't leave until 8PM or later... And during that time, there was very little downtime during the day...
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Give teachers a break. For the pay they make, and the long hour work days, and all the work they have to do in their off-time, I would never make the argument that they don't work as hard as whatever you consider a typical American for the sheer fact that they get a vacation. Real Americans get vacations as well.
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    I'd be fine with slightly extending the school year and changing its structure. Instead of giving kids 3 months off in the summer, 2 weeks in the winter, and 1 in the spring, give them 4 ten-week quarters each followed by a 3-week break.
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I think it's a good idea, we do it here in Oz, and contrary to CC's argument, kids don't go insane. In my state, it's roughly 10 weeks of schooling, then a 2 week break, except over Christmas, when its a 6 week break
    I'd actually be okay with that. They still get a whole month in the summer. Summers are to have fun, be outdoors and hang out with friends.

    The school system in Switzerland varies by canton and I think a few of the Swiss German cantons follow a system similar to yours. Shorter summer break and more breaks throughout the year. Where I live the academic performance expected of kids is very high and it's very stressful for those who are less academically gifted. They need that two month summer break. They need to let go of all that tension and just be carefree kids again for a while.
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    I'm definitely envious. Great benefits, school is out by four o'clock at the max, breaks during the day, hardly any college debt (or at least there shouldn't be). Sounds very nice. Not to mention a union that makes ridiculous demands on your behalf. Hmmmm I may have to reconsider law school...
    You're completely off you rocker or ignorant of the subject. I'm going to school to be a teacher and will have about 20k in debt when I get out. Teachers are not out by for 'max'. They then go home and plan for the next day and grade papers. I hate the Unions, I don't plan on joining. Maybe you should consider any type of school. Your claims are ridiculous.

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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I'd be fine with slightly extending the school year and changing its structure. Instead of giving kids 3 months off in the summer, 2 weeks in the winter, and 1 in the spring, give them 4 ten-week quarters each followed by a 3-week break.
    Something would have to make it possible for teachers to get the classes they need to maintain and/or upgrade their certification...
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    You're completely off you rocker or ignorant of the subject. I'm going to school to be a teacher and will have about 20k in debt when I get out. Teachers are not out by for 'max'. They then go home and plan for the next day and grade papers. I hate the Unions, I don't plan on joining. Maybe you should consider any type of school. Your claims are ridiculous.
    Hell I would go a step beyond that. Most of my teachers in high school didn't leave until after I did and I usually left around 7 or 8 at night. A lot of people don't realize many teachers go out and find jobs during the summer because they aren't working and they still need money.

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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    You're completely off you rocker or ignorant of the subject. I'm going to school to be a teacher and will have about 20k in debt when I get out. Teachers are not out by for 'max'. They then go home and plan for the next day and grade papers. I hate the Unions, I don't plan on joining. Maybe you should consider any type of school. Your claims are ridiculous.
    I am a teacher, had about $60K in debt (private school), never take papers home to grade, never plan at home, hate the unions too...

    I had a teacher ask me one time if I ever take anything home. I explained to her that I used my planning time and even lunch to get things done. I also come in on Saturdays usually to get everything ready for the next couple weeks. My lesson plans are prepared two weeks ahead of time.

    She, however, is off immediately to the lounge or other teachers' rooms to sit and talk whenever she gets a break. She is always weeks behind on grading.

    P.S. I believe I'm paid very well. I make just as much or more than a lot of teachers who have been teaching longer than me.
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    Re: Should Kids go to School All Year?

    Surprising that the poll is at 50-50, roughly.
    No nation, particularly today, can expect to do well with the illiteracy rate that we have...This is one of the prime causes of the gap between the rich and the poor.
    That our education system is in dire need of improvement and reform should by now be well known....
    This must be done on a state by state "method". The most important thing is that data and info be public and shared....Maybe this is being done now, I think that there is too much secrecy and privacy crap.

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