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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Bill O'Reilly disagrees with you. He apologized.
    Bill O'Reilly =/= Fox News, as I've already stated. He almost certainly disagrees with you about being the face of the network.

    EDIT: Isn't Beck more popular than O'Reilly on the station nowadays anyways? He (Beck) actually defended Sharrod.
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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Bill O'Reilly =/= Fox News, as I've already stated. He almost certainly disagrees with you about being the face of the network.

    EDIT: Isn't Beck more popular than O'Reilly on the station nowadays anyways? He (Beck) actually defended Sharrod.
    The Network has him in their Prime Time slot. O'Reilly is a representative of Fox News. You can't divorce them until he leaves the channel.
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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    O'Reilly is a representative of Fox News.
    He isn't. He's a pundit who uses allotted time on Fox to air his show.

    Again, if all the pundits on Fox were "representatives" of the channel, they'd all agree with each other. And Beck and O'Reilly did not agree with each other, at least until the latter apologized.

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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    He isn't. He's a pundit who uses allotted time on Fox to air his show.

    Again, if all the pundits on Fox were "representatives" of the channel, they'd all agree with each other. And Beck and O'Reilly did not agree with each other, at least until the latter apologized.
    You are missing what I am saying. As an employee, he is a representative of the company. He doesn't have to share opinions of other employees. There should be some kind of standard used to make sure the things they purport as facts actually are. That standard is to fact-check and corroborate sources. Fox didn't enforce this as other shows made the same mistake.
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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Bill O'Reilly =/= Fox News, as I've already stated. He almost certainly disagrees with you about being the face of the network.

    EDIT: Isn't Beck more popular than O'Reilly on the station nowadays anyways? He (Beck) actually defended Sharrod.
    Beck is usually second or third behind O'Reilly in ratings. I'm not sure he's ever beat him. I wonder if Beck was on in prime time if he would beat him....


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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, she should sue the White House. They were the ones who wrongfully fired. Maybe Sherrod should be sued for bring FoxNews into things and lying about Glenn Beck? (saying she would be on his show when Beck didn't mention it).
    I think when they told her she'd be on his show, they meant her video would be on his show and many people watch it so she'd be toast. However, Glenn didn't even air the video that night. He did the next night and sided with her. I believe Glenn says she now refuses to go on his show even though he defended her.


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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    I dunno... does GWB have a case against Dan Rather?

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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I dunno... does GWB have a case against Dan Rather?
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    lUnder the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. For example, Ariel Sharon sued Time Magazine over allegations of his conduct relating to the massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Although the jury concluded that the Time story included false allegations, they found that Time had not acted with "actual malice" and did not award any damages.
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    I realize you were being snarky, but I'd just like to point out that a public figure like a former president is much more exposed -- legally -- to defamation. Bush would have a tough case proving malice. Sherrod, likely not a public figure, just has to prove negligence and harm.

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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Look at all people who believe in the injustice served this woman is appropriate.. How pathetic can you get? It was the story that caused it and it was posted and ranted about by the libertarian "fox news" outlet.. from blog to national television. Don't you think "fox news" should .. um you know.. stop bull****ing for political gain?

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    Re: Should Shirley Sherrod sue Fox News and Andrew Breitbart for their lies?

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You are missing what I am saying. As an employee, he is a representative of the company. He doesn't have to share opinions of other employees. There should be some kind of standard used to make sure the things they purport as facts actually are. That standard is to fact-check and corroborate sources. Fox didn't enforce this as other shows made the same mistake.
    But he didn't do anything wrong. He called for her resignation just like lots of people did. Hell I did it right here on DP, then had to apologize. He apologized, as did the WH and I think the NAACP did. I think the only one who hasn't is Brietbart, but I guess that's his choice.
    As far as Fox seemingly to be the only network that needed to apologize is because no one else ran it. They don't run anything that might make their side look bad. They were all over the story of the NAACP(lies) calling out the tea party as racists. They weren't about to then turn around and air something that pointed to the NAACP as racists.

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