View Poll Results: Is it time the Pope changed the rules and allowed Catholic Priests to marry?

Voters
25. You may not vote on this poll
  • God yes!

    13 52.00%
  • Hell no!

    3 12.00%
  • Rutabaga

    5 20.00%
  • Other (Explain)

    4 16.00%
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 28

Thread: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

  1. #1
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    The hits to the Catholic Church just keep on coming - and they always seem to be around Sex probably because Catholic Priests, who are always male, cannot marry or have relations.

    Gay priest sex scandal as undercover Berlusconi reporter 'films clerics at gay clubs' | Mail Online

    Granted, the DailyMail isn't much of a newspaper - but it's enough to ask the question:

    Is it time the Pope changed the rules and allowed Catholic Priests to marry?

    Wouldn't children and the rest of society be a little safer and the priests a little more content were that to happen?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  2. #2
    Teacher of All Things


    Josie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    28,355

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    I'm not sure allowing priests to marry women would help with some having sex with men and little boys.


  3. #3
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Is it time the Pope changed the rules and allowed Catholic Priests to marry? Wouldn't children and the rest of society be a little safer and the priests a little more content were that to happen?
    I doubt it will make a twit of a difference re children short term, anyway. Pedophilia has absolutely no relationship to heterosexual relations at all. I think it would attract more men to the priesthood. And, hey, when they gave their marital advice it would come from someone who's walked the walk -- that has it's advantages.

    The reason I say "short term" above is that I think the Catholic Church draws pedophiles the same way carion draws flies. That mindset will take a while to change.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  4. #4
    Cheese
    Aunt Spiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sasnakra
    Last Seen
    09-10-16 @ 06:10 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    28,433

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    Well - since I don't trust the Priests to keep it in their pants and respect my children, I don't let my children near them.
    Safety-safe.

    To me it's just common sense - You should *never* trust anyone alone with your children . . . you can never be too careful, though - and bad things will happen anyway. It's hard to strike a balance between hover-mother and a essential-freedom-ensuring mother.

    One thing that is always advised when your kid's are in a daycare is to randomly stop by and call to see how your children are doing - I think that's a decent middle ground.
    Last edited by Aunt Spiker; 07-23-10 at 11:57 PM.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
    Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow

  5. #5
    Educator Black_Zawisza's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    12-20-13 @ 04:15 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    604

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    As a Catholic myself, I see two problems with allowing priests to marry.

    a) They're supposed to be devoting their entire lives to God. They simply don't have the time for the distraction of familial responsibilities. It would likely put a massive strain on the marriage. Not the best environment to raise a kid in.

    b) If the Church allows priests to marry, there will be many more priests a generation later. However, many of these priests will be unqualified for the job. If a priest marries and has a son, he might end high school thinking "y'know, the priesthood sounds like a pretty good profession. I know a lot about it from my dad's service, and he's got plenty of connections within it."

    The Catholic Church doesn't want people to become priests simply because it's easy to go into the family business.

  6. #6
    Global Moderator
    The Hammer of Chaos
    Goshin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Dixie
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:40 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,157

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    As a Catholic myself, I see two problems with allowing priests to marry.

    a) They're supposed to be devoting their entire lives to God. They simply don't have the time for the distraction of familial responsibilities. It would likely put a massive strain on the marriage. Not the best environment to raise a kid in.
    Most Protestant ministers manage to raise a family while still devoting their working lives to God. Granted it has its stresses and such, but it would hardly be a catastrophe.

    b) If the Church allows priests to marry, there will be many more priests a generation later. However, many of these priests will be unqualified for the job. If a priest marries and has a son, he might end high school thinking "y'know, the priesthood sounds like a pretty good profession. I know a lot about it from my dad's service, and he's got plenty of connections within it."

    The Catholic Church doesn't want people to become priests simply because it's easy to go into the family business.
    Hmmm.... why would the requirements be any easier? You can find people right now who have an uncle or a brother in the preisthood, and I assume the educational/etc requirements remain the same...


    My two bits, I think the Catholics should loosen the restriction, which I've never considered Biblical anyway... but then again I'm not Catholic, so it isn't really my concern or my problem, or my decision.

    Fiddling While Rome Burns
    ISIS: Carthago Delenda Est
    "I used to roll the dice; see the fear in my enemies' eyes... listen as the crowd would sing, 'now the old king is dead, Long Live the King.'.."

  7. #7
    Sage
    Harry Guerrilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Not affiliated with other libertarians.
    Last Seen
    09-01-17 @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    28,955

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The hits to the Catholic Church just keep on coming - and they always seem to be around Sex probably because Catholic Priests, who are always male, cannot marry or have relations.

    Gay priest sex scandal as undercover Berlusconi reporter 'films clerics at gay clubs' | Mail Online

    Granted, the DailyMail isn't much of a newspaper - but it's enough to ask the question:

    Is it time the Pope changed the rules and allowed Catholic Priests to marry?

    Wouldn't children and the rest of society be a little safer and the priests a little more content were that to happen?
    Default choice Rutabega.

    Do you mean that priests can marry each other?
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
    —Adam Shepard

  8. #8
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    05-13-11 @ 09:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    4,075
    Blog Entries
    3

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    It is quite possible that the HRCC is of the belief that unmarried Priests are of greater economic value to the Church than having married priests.
    Throughout the history of Christendom albeit mainly (not solely) the HRCC has conducted itself in ways that are not in conformity with it's stated objectives.
    As for instance at times various Popes were actually married, many others had Mistresses even up to fairly recent times.
    Certainly Popes have in the past fathered children.
    I somehow doubt that allowing Priests to marry will in any way reduce the amount of Pedophilia abuse on children in the care of Priests and also Nuns in this Church.
    IMO any Church should be banned from having children in it's care.
    The HRCC have consistently over many years proven that the welfare of the child is not of paramount importance.
    Rather it seems that these children simply provide a never ending stream of victims for the HRCC Priests.

  9. #9
    Dungeon Master
    Veni, vidi, dormivi!

    spud_meister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Didjabringabeeralong
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    33,868
    Blog Entries
    8

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    i don't think it would make a difference really, the majority of priests keep their vows and don't molest children, the i doubt it would make a difference for the few that do, because they're opportunists, and if the opportunity presented itself, married or not, i think they'd still do it.
    So follow me into the desert
    As desperate as you are
    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

  10. #10
    Rockin' In The Free World
    the makeout hobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Last Seen
    04-24-14 @ 06:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    7,102

    Re: Is it time Cathoic Priests were allowed to marry?

    If we take a look at the Episcopal church, which is probably more closely structured like the Catholic church than any other denomination, they don't have a problem with pedophilia, and they let priests marry. I suspect that this is a good indicator of what would happen if priests could marry.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •