View Poll Results: Gay people are born/hardwired to be gay

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    I don't think it's an all-or-nothing thing.

    I think most people are straight, and then some are gay, and some are in the middle. It's more of a sliding scale. Some gays can be attracted to the opposite sex every now and then and some straights can be attracted to the same sex every now and then.

    But I also think that it's part of you -- I don't think you decide who you're attracted to, you just decide whether you are going to act on it.

    Personally, even though I am very much pro-gay rights, I have never been attracted to another guy, and never had any fantasies about it. My wife, on the other hand...

    The bottom line of course is twofold: (1) Who cares? and (2) What business is it of anyone else?

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Well put yourself in my shoes. I am not into women but all of the imagery in the media is heterosexual. In the movies it's straight couples kissing, etc. It isn't really a turn on for me (well, maybe if the guy is attractive) but it doesn't offend me to watch it. Just because you aren't gay doesn't mean you are incapable of appreciating love between two people of the same sex. I have heterosexual friends who are couples too. Wow, what a concept!
    I can appreciate gay love, but there's a reason most of the movies are heterosexual, and it's all about the numbers. Never said gay sex offended me, but I'm sure some of it could.
    "It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens." Woody Allen.

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    I can appreciate gay love, but there's a reason most of the movies are heterosexual, and it's all about the numbers. Never said gay sex offended me, but I'm sure some of it could.
    I don't think it has much to do with numbers so much as it has to do with politics. I've seen plenty of weird human behaviors in movies that don't represent many people in the populous at large, but they still make it to the big screen for entertainment value. Gays are exclusively targetted for censorship. There is a whole sub-layer of media culture pertaining to the portayal of very normal, day-to-day things involving gay people that is being excluded from the mainstream willfully.

    The only way that people can accept gays in the mainstream right now is as villains, comic relief, hairdressers, makeup artists, dancers, and interior designers. It's progress, but it's not nearly enough. The day when I turn on the t.v. and two gay people are part of a popular, prime time t.v. show while not being the main focus or their homosexuality being part of some grand plot, I will think that great strides have been made.

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    The only way that people can accept gays in the mainstream right now is as villains, comic relief, hairdressers, makeup artists, dancers, and interior designers.

    And now cowboys.

    All minority groups have faced this same stereotyping in the entertainment media, and many still do.
    People in general do not like to have their belief systems challenged or their comfort zones expanded. They resist it vehemently. It has to be forced on them, in most cases.

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    And now cowboys.

    All minority groups have faced this same stereotyping in the entertainment media, and many still do.
    People in general do not like to have their belief systems challenged or their comfort zones expanded. They resist it vehemently. It has to be forced on them, in most cases.
    Yes, by things like "judical activism"!

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    I thought the movie Latter Days was really good. Started out a bit cheesy but well worth the watch.

    It's not mainstream, though.

    Have you watched Torchwood?

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    Re: Gay people are hardwired

    I'll type the end of the third video, where John is told that his tests indicate he performs as a gay man. In these tests, women perform higher than men and gay men perform higher than women (for anybody who chose not to watch the videos but still joined the discussion. Everybody owes me Starburst Jellybeans to thank me for transcribing.)

    "Sorry, now I'm getting funnily emotionally upset now. No, but that's good. It's because it is, it's um, it will challenge people, it will - and I'm so glad that that has come out because for so long, so many people have lived under the kind of stigma and the attitude of that, you know, it's a choice and you choose to behave this way ... dammit."

    So - I guess it is the business of those who want to educate those who judge?


    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I don't think it's an all-or-nothing thing.

    I think most people are straight, and then some are gay, and some are in the middle. It's more of a sliding scale. Some gays can be attracted to the opposite sex every now and then and some straights can be attracted to the same sex every now and then.

    But I also think that it's part of you -- I don't think you decide who you're attracted to, you just decide whether you are going to act on it.

    Personally, even though I am very much pro-gay rights, I have never been attracted to another guy, and never had any fantasies about it. My wife, on the other hand...

    The bottom line of course is twofold: (1) Who cares? and (2) What business is it of anyone else?
    Last edited by BDBoop; 07-26-10 at 08:21 AM. Reason: clarification. No coffee.

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