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Thread: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    Interesting. As a libertarian myself, I, as a matter of fact, don't see the 1D spectrum as bull****, because it's an efficient, one-syllable way to describe someone who's liberal/conservative along both axes. I was merely asking if anyone here preferred a conservative over a liberal politician or vice versa.

    BTW, your allegation that fascism is extreme conservatism? I call BS. Fascism is economically centrist, whereas an extreme right-wing country would have an utterly free market.
    Once again the left-right spectrum is completely useless. People have different ideas of what extreme left and extreme right actually mean, there is in reality the pro-state and the anti-state in the economic and personal lives of the individual.

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    A question: Modern Libertarians tend to agree with the modern "left" on the issue of the decriminalization of drugs. What else?

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Because you are harming someone else. I mentioned this.
    You want to criminalize murder because you want to prevent people from harming others, which you see as wrong. Is that not enforcing morality?

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Once again the left-right spectrum is completely useless. People have different ideas of what extreme left and extreme right actually mean, there is in reality the pro-state and the anti-state in the economic and personal lives of the individual.
    Left: Pro-state in economics, anti-state in social issues.
    Right: Pro-state in social issues, anti-state in economics.

    The left-right spectrum is legitimate when referring to extreme leftists and rightists. But true, it fails when dealing with centrists and libertarians.

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    You want to criminalize murder because you want to prevent people from harming others, which you see as wrong. Is that not enforcing morality?
    Technically yes, you know what I mean, semantics, I'm going to bed.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Technically yes, you know what I mean, semantics, I'm going to bed.
    This isn't a matter of semantics to me. I honestly don't know what you mean. :P

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Not a poll directed at me, but going backwards, when I first checked out the Libertarians back in '95 I liked 80% of the planks. Liber-al, Liber-tarian. There is something there, at least closer to the left-of-center demography, of which I am not. Just an observation.

    I have more respect for the Libertarians than I do for the GOP.

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Fiscally, I identify a little more with the right. In my own personal views, I tend to lean right. On social issues, I lean left.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    It's hard to say really. I think there are issues on both the right and left side that libertarians can agree with. But each side also has ideals which differ radically and fundamentally from libertarian political philosophy.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    This isn't a matter of semantics to me. I honestly don't know what you mean. :P
    When people talk about morality in politics they generally talk about crap that only affects them, i.e. drugs, prostitution, obscenity.
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