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Thread: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Fiscally libertarianism is on empty. Socially they have been complacent with the republican party. Libertarian fiscal policy is dead in the water and you can thank george bush..
    What libertarian fiscal policy? How is one of the biggest increases in military and non-military spending in US history Libertarian?
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    What libertarian fiscal policy? How is one of the biggest increases in military and non-military spending in US history Libertarian?
    You clueless moron, isn't it obvious? Libertarians are fiscally conservative. And Bush MUST have been a fiscal conservative, 'cause he had an R next to his name, right?

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Zawisza View Post
    Sorry if this ticks some of you off, but I intentionally left out a "Moderate" option in the poll. I'd rather not have anybody sitting on the fence.

    If you're having trouble, think about this: when someone posts a thread with a title claiming the entire Left or Right is bigoted, delusional, etc, does your reaction change depending on which side is being targeted?
    You should really research the Nolan Chart.

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Here is my view. I'd say I'm more right than left but you tell me.
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    Everyone should be able to do whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't infringe on another's rights to life, liberty, or property (as defined by John Locke).

    You want to do heroine? Go for it. Infringe on the above rights while on heroine, and pay teh consequences.

    You want to sell yourself out for cheap pleasures? Go for it, your respect (or lack of it) for yourself is not my buisiness.

    You want to marry somone of the same sex? Wouldn't be my cup of tea, but by all means go for it.

    You want to give away all of your money to X charity? Good for you, hope you can make it back.

    Do whatever you want but do NOT infring on my or anyone elses rights to life, liberty, and property.

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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    You should really research the Nolan Chart.
    I'm a libertarian. And yet, for some reason, I continue to refer to myself as a right-winger.

    All this, even though I'm not ignorant of the Nolan Chart. Thanks for the the assumption that I am, though.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    I probably identify more with the right for two reasons. First, the Republican Party has traditionally had a libertarian wing to it. And even though Republicans have been just as big a supporter of big government as the Democrats, they at least have the decency to give me a reach around every campaign season by spouting some libertarian-esque rhetoric (which they usually have no intention of following) while they screw me from behind.

    Secondly, the areas where libertarianism overlaps with the ring wing are more important to me than the areas where libertarianism and the left wing overlap. I believe enacting libertarian based policies on social issues would be good for the nation, but it would little affect on my personal everyday life. Even if pot and prostitution were legal, I'm not going to rent a hooker and get stoned. Repealing anti-obscenity laws won't cause me to run out and buy Max Hardcore's latest piece of filth. Protecting the freedom of expression through flag burning won't mean that I'm going to torch old glory every Sunday. But reducing the national debt, decreasing government expenditures (and hopefully in long run reducing my taxes) will affect me personally.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    But reducing the national debt, decreasing government expenditures (and hopefully in long run reducing my taxes) will affect me personally.
    Exactly. I found that going from Republican to Libertarianism was an easy transition. I feel fairly assured that personal social liberties will continue to relax legislatively (ie abortion, gay rights, at least marijuana legalization etc) naturally with time. What I don't expect will be accomplished without a good fight is limiting spending, and this is what will determine our ability to sustain ourselves as a society and a nation.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    As a libertarian, I'm anti-statist. So that, by definition, is going to put more more at odds with the left than the current right.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    As a libertarian, I'm anti-statist. So that, by definition, is going to put more more at odds with the left than the current right.
    Sadly enough, in our current state, I think that puts you at odds with both.
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    Re: Libertarians: which do you identify with more, the Left or Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Sadly enough, in our current state, I think that puts you at odds with both.
    I did say "more at odds," not at odds with only one. But there isn't a 1:1 equivalence. The left is absolutely more comfortable with statist "solutions."
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