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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Simple question. Do you think drug legalization would move a noticeable number of libertarians to another ideology as one of their core issues is resolved to their satisfaction?
    You know, that isn't even one of the main reasons I'm a libertarian.

    It may cause some to move on but I don't know.
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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    What I was trying to say is that if legalization of drugs is all you care about, you're not a libertarian. You're just some bandwagon stoner under a misnomer. It'd be like calling Bush a conservative.

    I'm for legalization, but not because "it's like tyranny, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan". I'm for legalization because it's not the government's right to dictate what you put into your own body on your own time on your own property. However, the even bigger reason I'm for its legalization is because not only does decriminalization of it reduce public funds use, but you can tax and regulate it for a form of income to Uncle Sam.

    I don't smoke weed. Doesn't mean I wouldn't support someone who wants to do it. It's not hurting me. I'm not gay but someone else who is may want to get married. Not my business to jump in the way. I've even defended sin taxes on cigarettes even though it's a nasty, disgusting habit that caters to the lowest common denominator.

    Rights don't exist simply because they're part of your belief system.

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    What I was trying to say is that if legalization of drugs is all you care about, you're not a libertarian. You're just some bandwagon stoner under a misnomer. It'd be like calling Bush a conservative.
    I still have trouble believing that one. Bush was enthousiastically supported by conservatives. In fact they were his last hold out in terms of popularity. If he isn't conservative, than conservatives aren't conservative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm for legalization, but not because "it's like tyranny, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan". I'm for legalization because it's not the government's right to dictate what you put into your own body on your own time on your own property. However, the even bigger reason I'm for its legalization is because not only does decriminalization of it reduce public funds use, but you can tax and regulate it for a form of income to Uncle Sam.

    I don't smoke weed. Doesn't mean I wouldn't support someone who wants to do it. It's not hurting me. I'm not gay but someone else who is may want to get married. Not my business to jump in the way. I've even defended sin taxes on cigarettes even though it's a nasty, disgusting habit that caters to the lowest common denominator.

    Rights don't exist simply because they're part of your belief system.
    I don't agree with that last statement, but I am cool with people who want to do right because they believe its right.

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    So if you're a non-smoker, you don't think you have a right to light up?

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    So if you're a non-smoker, you don't think you have a right to light up?
    Whether or not I smoke has nothing to do with my belief system. I may smoke even if I do not think I have the right to do so if I do not think I will get caught.

    So I guess the best answer I can give is if I do not believe I have the right to smoke up, I will act accordingly. If I do believe it, I will act accordingly.

    Personally, I do not smoke up, but I am not opposed to the legalization of weed as I think the current laws about it do more harm than good to society.
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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Red herring. All I'm saying is that you sound like the only rights allowed someone is what you believe. If you don't smoke, you don't think anyone else has the right to. If you're straight then gay marriage is not a right. I mean, it's not (it's a privilege)...but I think you can understand where I'm coming from.

    Hopefully.

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Red herring.
    Not sure why you are making this accusation. I simply stated what I believed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    All I'm saying is that you sound like the only rights allowed someone is what you believe.
    If I don't think people should have the right to something, I would vote against legislation allowing it. So I guess your statement is probably true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If you don't smoke, you don't think anyone else has the right to.
    Not sure where you are getting that from. I think people should have the right to do lots of things I have no desire to do. For example, I don't drink alcohol, but I don't think it should be illegal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If you're straight then gay marriage is not a right.
    I am not following your logic. I am straight and I have no personal issue with gay people getting married.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I mean, it's not (it's a privilege)...but I think you can understand where I'm coming from.

    Hopefully.
    Good, because I have no idea where you are coming from.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 07-21-10 at 05:06 PM.

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    If I don't think people should have the right to something, I would vote against legislation allowing it. So I guess your statement is probably true.
    That's the only important sentence. Truth is that your beliefs will determine whether they have a right. Everything else is gravy.

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    That's the only important sentence. Truth is that your beliefs will determine whether they have a right. Everything else is gravy.
    Of course I feel that way. Why would I deny it? Especially since I see nothing wrong with that statement.

    I am just curious why you seem to think I would be opposed to something I didn't personally do, per your smoking and gay marriage example. That accusation makes no sense.

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    Re: Would drug legalization reduce the number of libertarians?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Of course I feel that way. Why would I deny it? Especially since I see nothing wrong with that statement.

    I am just curious why you seem to think I would be opposed to something I didn't personally do, per your smoking and gay marriage example. That accusation makes no sense.
    So you don't believe that you own your own body and that the government can tell you what you can put it in?

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