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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    1) the individual's track record-do they have a history of voting for the issues I find most important

    2) generally the issues most important to me are taxes, gun rights, and whether they oppose income redistribution. I have found that the politicians who tend to trust people to own guns tend to believe that individuals are in the best position to decide what to do with their own money

    3) other considerations. for example, if congress is a close call, I might support a GOP congressman who would get us a GOP SOTH even if the dem might be slightly better on the issues.

    In Ohio, I plan on voting for Governor STrickland, though he is a dem. Why? as a freshman congressman he voted against the clinton gun bans despite strong pressure to sell out his constituents who tended to be poor miners and farmers who are dems but pro gun. His opponent-Kave IN Kasich changed his vote to favor the clinton gun ban (thus being the deciding vote) so as to ingratiate himself to the White House so WJC would sign Kasich's Penney-Kasich bill. He's a dishonest weasel and while he would be better overall in terms of his agenda, I will never vote for him after his sell out in 1994

    I also will vote for Dem Richard cordray for AG of Ohio. Cordray is the most qualified individual in Ohio state government. A five time jeopardy champion, he is well respected as a professional. He also has an NRA A rating and spends most of his time prosecuting real criminals. His opponent-Mike DeWhine was one of the worst RINOs in the senate who was the only Republican to vote against the Bill that prevents slimey plaintiff's attorneys from suing gun makers over a crime committed with a gun that passed through at least two other hands after the maker sold it. DeWhine also threatened the Bush white house back when Jeffords swung to the left giving the dems control to do the same thing unless Bush appointed Dewhine's rinos to the bench and other offices.

    On the rest of the races I will vote GOP. Rob Portman is a friend of mine and the most qualified guy running in Ohio in federal elections. His opponent is your classic gun hating bureaucracy loving welfare socialist. While I cannot vote for Steve Chabot, I support him strongly since he was another guy who always voted consistently for less taxes. The guy who upset him in 08 due to hordes of first time voting Obama bots, promised to be a fiscal conservative but became Nancy Pelosi's little but boy.



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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    This would be for Norway. I can't vote in New Zealand yet.

    1. Economic policies
    Are they right wing? Do they want to remove uneccecary restrictions such as the cap on the number of hours you can work? Are they against unions? Do they want to lower the taxation and cut spending? Do they want to make it harder to live on social security? It's very easy to live on hand outs.

    2. Immigration policies
    Do they want to make it harder for asylum seekers to immigrate? Because they are not productive, they don't integrate very well especially when the numbers get big and it's not helping poor people. You can't save the world by letting 0.1% of Africas population to Europe.
    Do they want to make the system more clear so that it is easier for educated immigrants to immigrate to Norway?

    3. Educational policies
    Do they want the school system to demand more from the students? Do they want to increase the wages for teachers and improve their conditions so that the major teacher shortage is reduced (many political parties will say they are, but in fact no parties care very much abut that problem) Do they want to make it easier to fire bad teachers? Do they want more exams and grading from fifth grade?

    Schools in Norway needs to be fixed. Norway did horrible in pretty much all of the international surveys. However, the left tries to use every chance they get to tell how awsome the school system is. For instance Norway got in the middle in an international survey, which tested the students understanding of democracy. Then our educational minister said that the teachers could go home with their heads high.

    Anyway, politics in Norway is miserable, and I'm very far away from mainstream politics.

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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    When I vote the only thing that matters is which candidate will get us faster to bankruptcy. I liken the one party with two names as to the gas chamber in California and the lethal injection table in Texas. Yes, both states have the death penalty, but one has the check out line from Wal-Mart with too many customers and the express lane with no customers. I want the one that is the express lane. I know it's a cynical view, but given the track record of politicians since I've been alive have left me with it.

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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    Combination of supporting issues that are important to me and past history. Political party would be a distant third. Most important issues to me are supporting GM, health care reform, supporting national security, support and reform for social programs and education, and cracking down on illegal immigration. If a candidate is consistent with my positions on these issues, he/she gets my vote. Mostly, this would be a Democrat, however, if the candidate has a very negative history, one that is more negative than the other candidate's positions, I would probably withhold my vote. In the recent NJ governatorial election, Christie was the antithesis of who I would want elected, however, Corzine was about as corrupt as they come. I withheld my vote.
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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    I vote on what the candidate's history is and what they do to maximize liberty.
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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    1st consideration are the candidate's positions, 2nd consideration is whether the candidate's history matches his alleged positions.
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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    Party is irrelevant and thus so is party platform.
    I would never waste my vote by voting against someone.

    I decide based on the candidate's record on issues and what they say they plan to do if elected. Their personal stances I disagree with aren't so much a consideration for me unless I feel they will enact legislation to force their personal stances on the rest of the populace. For instance, I have no issue at all with an anti-choice candidate. I would only have an issue if they had a history of trying to ban the procedure and/or stated that was their intention if elected.

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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    The candidates political platform is what matters most. If it lines up enough with mine, I can consider supporting that candidate. If not, then I can't.
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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    I vote for the person with the most sound domestic policy. Foreign policy matters very little in comparison.

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    Re: When you vote, what consideration counts the most?

    For me, it's personal character and integrity, the candidate's ability to be comfortable in his own skin, and his ability to look at the big picture and support policies for personal liberty and a strong economy.
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